• Anyone else told no surgery because they are stage 4?

    Asked by carter4 on Friday, December 21, 2012

    Anyone else told no surgery because they are stage 4?

    12 Answers from the Community

    12 answers
    • BuckeyeShelby's Avatar
      BuckeyeShelby

      In a lot of cases, staging doesn't take place until after surgery. It didn't in my case, and I was diagnosed w/stage 4B endometrial cancer.

      over 4 years ago
    • carter4's Avatar
      carter4

      what is 4B? I was diagnosed with 4 at onset - I was surprised they did not want to remove both breast - it is on both sides.

      over 4 years ago
    • Harry's Avatar
      Harry

      Stage 4 means that it has already spread. Surgery isn't going to get it. Surgery at earlier stages offers the possibility of removing all the cancer at once, and even then they would probably want chemo to be sure. At stage 4 that is no longer realistic. I hope your doctor talked about how he or she plans to treat you. And, you might consider getting a second opinion.

      over 4 years ago
    • BuckeyeShelby's Avatar
      BuckeyeShelby

      4B is specific to uterine cancer. 4 is universal and means it's spread beyond the origins. For uterine cancer, B means it's spread outside the pelvic region. 4A means it's still in the pelvic region or bladder. I always look at it as B means north (up) and A means south. But for me, that was not determine until surgery, although I figured it would be either 3 or 4. I knew going in that I was grade 1 -- that was determined by the biopsy.

      over 4 years ago
    • carter4's Avatar
      carter4

      I know what 4 is - maybe a typo - but you put 4 "B" - that was my question - it's in my bones - everywhere in the skeleton - but good news it is not in liver, lung or brain yet. What about your mets??

      over 4 years ago
    • Peroll's Avatar
      Peroll

      Once cancer is found in more than one place they normally assume that it is in places they have not found yet and chemo is the normal treatment at least at first. In my case when my cancer was found in my lungs (one spot in each lung - the original cancer was in my colon) my Oncologist explained this to me. After about 9 months with the chem keeping the tumors stable (not growing) and no signes it had gone anywhere else, I started asking questions about alternatives to chemo for life. After looking at the alternative we decided that surgical removal made sense for my case. If your chemo manages to clear up the cancer in your bones than they may decide surgery is in order. While there are rules to cancer treatment there are at least as many exceptions. Good Luck with your treatment and let us know how it goes.

      over 4 years ago
    • Bellamore's Avatar
      Bellamore

      Tumor too large for surgery. Stage 4 Cholangiocarcinoma. Being treated with implanted hepatic artery infustion chemo pump. I've made it a year so far, but last scan showed three new tumors in liver.

      over 4 years ago
    • nancyjac's Avatar
      nancyjac

      If your cancer has spread to your bones, surgically removing your breasts is not curative. The only way to control metastasized cancer is with systemic treatment since you can't surgically have all your bones removed.

      over 4 years ago
    • Tracy's Avatar
      Tracy

      Everyone is going to give you answers that are specific to them and not you. The only one that knows your body is you and your Oncologist. I will tell you what we can all tell you is to be stubborn and know that there is no expiration date on you ;-). When a cancer has spread it takes a different treatment that surgery is not going to be the only answer. Live, laugh and try to get your brain out of the horrible loop that it is in right now (I know it well) for a little bit. Please take care of yourself! Tracy

      over 4 years ago
    • Tami's Avatar
      Tami

      I am also stage 4 and have a friend who has breast cancer stage 4. My friend was given the option by her doctor to have surgery after her stage 4 diagnoses and is doing well at this time. You should talk with you doctor and ask why he feels you are not a canidate. You would also benifit from researching and checking how other patients have done with surgery after being diagnosed with stage 4. There is hope! I have been stage 4 about 18 months now and I also have it throughout my bones. I am currently taking Femara and Zometa infusions and am stable (no progression of cancer).

      over 4 years ago
    • carolchristao's Avatar
      carolchristao

      I'm on stage 3 breast cancer, only right-sided, but tumor too large for surgery. Before chemo it was around 8.5cm. After 2 rounds of chemo it is 10cm, but the doctor told me there is the tumor area and the cancer active area in that tumor. Tumor enlarged but active cancer in shrinking, so chemo is working and after that exam I went for the 3rd round of chemo. There will be 8 sessions of chemo before surgery.

      over 4 years ago
    • princess123's Avatar
      princess123

      I was stage 4 from the beginning. It did spread to the liver, lymph nodes and spine. My doctor did not want to do surgery because of how spread out it was. She bombarded me with chemo and knocked it back considerably in the first 3 weeks. My white count and platelets went down too, but I started feeling better as soon as my cancer markers went down.

      over 4 years ago

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