• Bone denisity

    Asked by Larae55 on Sunday, January 15, 2017

    Bone denisity

    I have read so many negative things about drugs that improve bone density. I believe and have been told big pharma is in it with doctors to push these. These drugs improve outer strength of bone but not the inner strength. They also have very bad side effects for some. I want natural help. Has anyone out there been successful at other ways of improving bone density. My doctor keeps after me to take them . I also can not do the hormone replacement.

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    • Songwriter's Avatar
      Songwriter

      Try a GOOD Osteoporosis Nutrient from Life Extension BONE UP.....also strontium caps....Vit K is great and eat less animal protein.....Look it up!!

      over 3 years ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Buy yourself some very inexpensive herbal tea made from oatstraw.

      Oatstraw contains silica which, although a common element, everybody is a little short on. Calcium is in dark green veggies. Eat them.

      Think of calcium as the structure and silica as the flex.

      www.etsy.com/shop/rawmaven

      I sell moringa which has about 4 times the calcium as milk and I also sell others herbs and combinations by request. All you need is 1/2 teaspoon of moringa in a smoothie or in a teabag to steep and then drink.

      Mixed with oatstraw, a tea actually improves your mood (because the body is getting what it needs, perhaps?).

      Go figure.

      over 3 years ago
    • BoiseB's Avatar
      BoiseB

      I am one who had a very bad reaction to bone strengthening drugs. It was so bad that I thought my cancer had come back. When I went to my oncologist saying that the cancer was beck he immediately pulled the drug and ordered another one an injection that is taken only every two years. I am a year overdue and I am noticing a rapid loss in height lately. I was trying to adjust my diet to get more calcium. Guess what dairy isn't the only source of calcium, broccoli is also a great source of calcium. My Dr. has also prescribed calcium supplements. It is rather easy to find lists of foods that are high in any nutrient you might need.

      over 3 years ago
    • artsylady's Avatar
      artsylady

      Exercise, particularly anything that uses your body's weight to move, can help build strong bones. It is never too late. Weight-bearing exercise can be aerobic, such as brisk walking, tennis, dancing, or high impact, such as jogging. Alternate weight bearing exercises with a resistant workout, using gym weights or hand and ankle weights is another option.
      I've been working out since I was in my 20s. I attended college on an athletic scholarship, so I've always been active. It's my second most important hobby after reading.
      Since my 40s, I've done both radiation and chemo multiple times, but my bones are very dense and strong. I'm now 63.
      While supplements and diet are important, exercise is rated #1 for building strong bones. In addition to building strong bones, exercise does wonders for your cardiovascular system, as well. Okay, this is starting to sound like an advertisement-but what I've said is true. PS: I really like knowing I'm strong and can kick butt if I need to! PSPS: I can outrun my 20-something sons! Sweet!!!

      over 3 years ago
    • BarbarainBham's Avatar
      BarbarainBham

      Larae55, can you be more specific about the information that doctors are pushing those drugs for no reason---do you mean they own pharmaceutical stock, are on their payroll to lecture about the drugs, etc.? I doubt anything like that would be true across the board, and besides give your own doctor a little bit of credit for his/her honesty towards their patients!

      I worked a few years for an osteoporosis specialist. Although she advocated a good diet and prescribed high-mg supplements of Vitamin D, there is often another reason patients don't ABSORB the supplements, such as lack of estrogen, thyroid disease, etc.

      Try additional ways to address osteoporosis, such as weight-bearing exercise. Vitamin D from sunshine on bare skin is a simple way to get Vitamin D. Once you are deficient, it takes more mg to get levels back to normal, plus addressing whatever your deficiency was caused by.

      over 3 years ago
    • cak61's Avatar
      cak61

      Are you on an aromatase inhibitor? If so, consider switching to Tamoxifen. AI's deplete bone mass while Tamoxifen actually increases bone mass.
      Both have risks/side effects.
      I was on Tamoxifen, then switched to AI after a hysterectomy and watched my bone mass decrease. Wasn't tolerating the AI, so switched back to Tamoxifen and my bone mass increased.
      I'm not sure why so many doctors use AI's for women with osteoporosis issues. AI's offer a very small increase in recurrence reduction compared to Tamoxifen.
      This is my understanding anyway.

      over 3 years ago
    • Rollercoaster's Avatar
      Rollercoaster

      Agree with artsy lady that exercise is best at building strong bones. Walking and jogging is best followed by lifting weights. Even if you don't have formal dumbbells you could still use other things like liquid laundry bottles or gallon containers. Good luck and stay positive.

      over 3 years ago
    • ChildOfGod4570's Avatar
      ChildOfGod4570

      Thanks for all these answers! I was diagnosed with osteopenia last fall, and I take calcium, D3, and exercise 6 days a week. My doc isn't too worried about it for now and will test me in about 18 months. I'm going to follow this question so I can gather info to improve my bone density. HUGS and God bless!

      over 3 years ago
    • fiddler's Avatar
      fiddler

      Exercise with pounding, such as walking and running builds bones. Bicycling contributes to bone deterioration because there is no impact. Bones need impact activities.

      We're always looking for a "magic pill" and ignore our birthright - exercise and food.

      over 3 years ago
    • Larae55's Avatar
      Larae55

      I take anastrozole because I was triple positive. It is a hormone suppressant. That's why I can't do hormone therapy. Thank you for all the answers. Linda

      over 3 years ago
    • Ejourneys' Avatar
      Ejourneys

      The Better Bones and Balance program from Oregon State University is excellent. I have their DVD, thanks to learning about them through @TXHills. Here's her thread with the link to their website:
      https://www.whatnext.com/questions/exercise-program-to-strengthen-bones

      over 3 years ago
    • BarbarainBham's Avatar
      BarbarainBham

      FYI re bone density Xray (DXA): Although your Medicare or other insurance may state it pays for one every two years, if you've been diagnosed with a bone problem, you should ask your doctor to write the insurance company confirming your diagnosis and stating due to that diagnosis, "it is medically necessary to have a DXA once a year for monitoring the disease ." Then the insurance will probably approve.

      If you don't have it once a year, how are you to know if you are taking and doing the right thing to improve? That's how doctors know to look for thyroid problems or other problems effecting absorption.

      Also taking Vitamin D3 is recommended at a prescription level (35,000 units) to correct a deficiency.

      over 3 years ago
    • banditwalker's Avatar
      banditwalker

      My last bone scan (which is different than a bone density) was higher than the previous year. I had actually gained mass. I take my 1200 mg of calcium each day and exercise as much as I can with yoga every morning. I take Arimidex.

      over 3 years ago
    • cak61's Avatar
      cak61

      As far as any tests/ scans, as soon as I have a diagnosis my insurance will NOT cover them. They fall under my deductible. They say it becomes diagnostic, not routine.
      That is what happened with my bone density test. They paid until I was diagnosed with osteopenia.
      They never pay for my breast ultrasound either.
      Hardly seems fair.

      over 3 years ago
    • Songwriter's Avatar
      Songwriter

      Calcium without Magnesium is not good ....

      over 3 years ago
    • CASSIEME1's Avatar
      CASSIEME1

      LARAE55, I AM PRETTY MUCH IN THE BOAT WITH YOU. MY VITAMIN D LEVEL IS 20. BEEN ON 50,000UNITS OF VITAMIN D.I HAVE PARATHYROID ISSUES WHICH THEY CANT DETERMINE WHY.I WAS OS AROMATASE INHIBITORS. CHANGED TO TAMOXIFEN HAD BAD SIDE EFFECTS FROM THTA SWITCHED BACK TO FEMARA. 1 MORE YEAR AND IM DONE.

      over 3 years ago
    • Ladykarla's Avatar
      Ladykarla

      Oncologist prescribed Prolia. I lost several teeth in my upper right jaw. They crumbled right into my hand. He immediately discontinued Prolia. I'm taking Caltrate with D. It is over the counter. There is a much cheaper generic.

      over 3 years ago
    • cards7up's Avatar
      cards7up

      Anyone supplementing calcium and Vit D3, should have a blood test first. Too much calcium or D3 is not good either. I'm a 2x lung cancer survivor and had a compression fracture of the spine. They did a biopsy due to my previous LC diagnosis. And thankfully, it wasn't cancer. Then I had my BMD and dx with osteoporosis. I refused the medicine at first and waited 4 months to get in to see a specialist. We discussed my concerns and he gave me the name of the trial to check out, which I did. The one my PCP gave me was incorrect. I read the trial for Fosamax which was called FITS.
      After that I changed my mind and got the script filled. I've been on it 7 months and have had no problems to date. I"m not a Big Pharma conspiracy believer. I do my research so I can make an informed decision. I don't believe that once we get to a certain point, that you can change it around by diet and exercise and supplements.
      "Because of the varying degrees of osteoporosis and the risk of fracture, you might be discouraged from doing certain exercises." This is what you base the type of exercise you need to be doing and it shouldn't involve twisting. Take care, Judy
      http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/osteoporosis/in-depth/osteoporosis/art-20044989

      over 3 years ago
    • mofields' Avatar
      mofields

      Eat foods rich in calcium and take a Calcium/Vitamin supplement. As soon as I started my AI (anastrozole), he prescribed a calcium supplement. And as most people said above, exercise is important.

      over 3 years ago

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