• CBD Usage

    Asked by wmsavs on Wednesday, April 10, 2019

    CBD Usage

    My wife and I are considering using CBD products (specifically in capsule form) to alleviate pain for our different ailments. In her case, as most know, it's cancer pain related and for me it's mobility and autoimmune ailment related. My question is two-fold: 1) How effective has this product been in comparison to the more harmful and addictive alternatives? and 2) For those who have chosen this method, what are your feelings about letting doctors and pharmacists know of your usage of this product?

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    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      I haven't used it, but I have a response to your second question. I think it is absolutely vital that you tell the doctors that you are using the CBD. It could mean that they need to make a change in the medication they prescribe or watch closer or whatever. Doctors need to know everything we're doing to best treat us. Or, that's what I think.

      Good luck! My son used medical marijuana with great success to control PTSD It was FAR better than the addictive psychotropic drugs that he was prescribed by the VA.

      3 months ago
    • BarbarainBham's Avatar
      BarbarainBham

      wmsavs, I agree with LiveWithCancer---YOU MUST LET YOUR DOCTORS KNOW ABOUT ANYTHING YOU TAKE---Your doctor is doing his best to work with you as a team to get you well. Don't keep secrets from him or her. They will work with you in case your other medicine interacts or needs to be changed. (I don't think CBD is illegal, so there wouldn't be a reason to conceal it.)

      LiveWithCancer, have you heard about the latest info on marijuana's harmful effects? I can't quote it, but it has to do with frequent use and schizophrenia, plus some other brain effects especially effecting younger people.

      I have a brother who used it a lot when he was young, and he claims it effected his memory.

      Happy Spring to everyone!

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      Hi @BarbarainBham, I have heard some of those reports. I guess like everything, it can have bad side effects for some people.

      I know a lot of people who use it (some way too much in my own opinion) and none of them are schizophrenic and their minds seem to be okay. I know my son used it for years and years, sometimes legally, sometimes illegally ... most of the time medicinally, sometimes recreationally just to get high. He could run circles around me in his sleep mentally. I was often astounded by his mental capacities ...

      I don't debate that it can't negatively impact a person's psyche or memory because I am quite certain that it probably can affect some people that way. But so can psychotropic drugs prescribed by doctors.

      I'm conservative politically, but when it comes to legalizing marijuana, I am a huge fan - especially medicinally, but I would even vote to legalize it recreationally. I personally think it is less dangerous than alcohol. (I'm a child of the 60-70s ... I loved smoking pot when I was a kid. Of course, the marijuana of today is not anything like the marijuana of then ... it is far, far more potent now than then. and, it is sort of like eating steak - I can find research that supports it and research that says it is dangerous.)

      3 months ago
    • Gumpus61's Avatar
      Gumpus61

      Neither CBD nor use of marijuana in any manner will cause any true harm. If that is the oath a doctor takes "first do no harm".....then Marijuana is medicine if it relieves any symptom of any kind for anyone, used in moderation.

      3 months ago
    • Dianem's Avatar
      Dianem

      I am using cbd oil in both drops and salve. You can obtain it over the counter with just the oil component and not the part that makes you high. I am using it to treat arthritis type pain. Although it does not alleviate it completely it does help. It also seems to make me less anxious. I had checked with both my oncologist and rheumatologist and both said it was fine to try and that others they knew of were using it also. I would say check with your doctors-then definitely try it. Keep strong and God bless

      3 months ago
    • wmsavs' Avatar
      wmsavs

      Hi everyone, thanks for giving such thoughtful and helpful opinions. You're why this forum works! I told my first doctor yesterday and we have hers today. The product we're using clearly states it does not contain THC, the component that makes the user laugh and get the munchies.

      3 months ago
    • Morwen's Avatar
      Morwen

      My sister uses cannabis for pain management. After a near fatal accident, she was taking more than twenty pills a day. She was like a zombie. Now she uses cannabis just to function and she is rarely high. I hope to seek help from that community once we figure out my path.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      Hey @wmsavs ... nothing wrong with a little laughter or a few munchies! Go for the gusto! :) :) (Just kidding)

      3 months ago
    • BarbarainBham's Avatar
      BarbarainBham

      LiveWithCancer, like I said I can't quote the info because it was too detailed, but many of the symptoms only applied to people whose brain was still developing and I can't remember how old that was----possibly 25 or 30 years old. They were also specific about how much they considered (in the study) to be "a frequent user." (I think it might have been 20 days a month.) Another thing I remembered was they said it often caused ADD if smoked when young. This info was announced on the TV news recently, so I'm sure it could be Googled as "news."

      In the 1980's (when I was trying smoking marijuana), they came out with info saying that marijuana smokers were 10 times more likely to get lung cancer than tobacco cigarette smokers. I was already a heavy cigarette smoker, so that's when I stopped experimenting with marijuana. Then from[phone number redacted], I also worked for a pulmonary doctor who did NIH research and medical-legal cases, and heard so much about chemicals like toluene that cause lung disease, it put the fear in me!

      Yes, I think government should allow medical marijuana to be legal in all states. In fact, I think if a doctor prescribes anything for medical purposes, it should be legal. Helping patients should be up to doctors, not lawmakers.

      2 months ago
    • LuvinSis' Avatar
      LuvinSis

      CBD and marajuana are very different things. With most CBD there's a minimal % of THC = 0.3%

      There are topical and oral options for CBD products. Do your research to see the options. Choose your vendors carefully.

      2 months ago
    • Skyemberr's Avatar
      Skyemberr

      I am glad that someone finally said that THC and CBD are two different things. Only THC gets people high.

      Also, my palliative care doctors made me read a book called "Stoned", by a palliative care doctor, about medical marijuana and along with explaining the different effects of each chemical in the plant, the book also went through and gave the results of various studies.

      Surprisingly, (according to UCLA) marijuana can be used to treat some kinds of asthma and does not appear to bring a lasting damage to the lung.

      Also, the book claimed that creams and salves with marijuana or just CBD were quite ineffective compared to ingestibles like food or drops which can be very effective.

      The main thing to know about food containing THC is that you should eat a small amount of it at first and then give it a couple of hours before eating any more of it, because it can take that long for it to come on. People have been eating ingestibles too quickly when trying them for the first time and scaring themselves into the ER because the drug suddenly kicks in and it is much stronger than expected because they got impatient and ate more.

      Otherwise, they are actually very reliable because the manufacturers are being regulated and have to state how much THC is in each portion.

      The book is a good source to learn about all of the different types of marijuana products that are currently on the market. I recommend it, especially in light of CBD now becoming so mainstream that even Walgreens is marketing products with CBD in them! I am not taking Medical Marijuana at this point but am glad my docs made me do all of the reading on it so I can share it here with people.

      Good luck! I hope that you get a lot of relief from whichever form or part of marijuana you choose.

      2 months ago
    • LuvinSis' Avatar
      LuvinSis

      I had kind of pushed aside most topical CBD salves / balms. A few nights ago my back pain (non cancer related, I've had 8 spine surgeries) was 9/10. Vicodin and valium and 25 mg oral CBD was doing nothing. I had a CBD salve I wasn't thrilled with from Eaze, solely because the odor was very "earthy". In desperation at 2 am I slathered a huge chunk on my entire lower back and crawled back in bed. Stunningly at 4 am I woke up and suddenly realized the pain that had been there for 2 days was now at a 1/10. I'm now planning on ordering more.

      I'm not sure if it was because this was more muscular pain than my usual spinal arthritis / bone pain (I have something called Ehlers Danlos Syndrome so I have systemic joint problems). But it worked amazingly well. I think for muscular pain, or pain near the surface, these salves/balms may work well. For other pain the oral seems to work better.

      2 months ago
    • wmsavs' Avatar
      wmsavs

      @LuvinSis, that's an interesting product and something I've never heard before. Is the product's name Eaze or is that the company that produces it? Does the product have THC in it? Have you used the product with more regularity than just that one episode?

      2 months ago
    • starshine2006's Avatar
      starshine2006

      I had done tons of research on CBD oil. Discussed with both my radiation doctor and oncologist/hematologist. The radiation doctor said that it was illegal (not so if THC below 0.3%). Although I had no pain with my lung cancer, it was limited stage, I chose to use the CBD oil for it's anti-cancer properties. I also went on a Keto diet (no carbs, no sugar), and did the traditional medical processes of chemo/radiation. I will say the CBD oil for the most part kept me from being nauseated. My last CT scan showed no signs of the nodule that was cancerous. Whether it be the CBD oil, chemo/radiation, or a combination of all three, I do recommend CBD oil. The caveat to this being...........DO RESEARCH on the company you get it from Lots of fake companies out there. Ask for a certificate of analysis from a third party lab to test for pesticides, heavy metals, and of course amount of cannaboids in the oil. If you are allergic to coconut, make sure they can supply CBD made with olive oil, or other oil you are not allergic to.

      2 months ago
    • LuvinSis' Avatar
      LuvinSis

      @wmsavs The company is Eaze wellness. They're a good company. Lazarus is as well, especially as they're high quality and give a discount for veterans, those on disability or low income. Another cbd balm i like is CBD fir Life. All have been very topically effective. I get my oral capsules, due to price, from Lazarus. All are 0.3% THC

      2 months ago
    • starshine2006's Avatar
      starshine2006

      I might add to LuvinSis's post that Lazrus Naturals also gives discounts to military, low income and those with chronic illnesses.

      2 months ago
    • BarbarainBham's Avatar
      BarbarainBham

      starshine2006, can you elaborate about CBD's anti-cancer properties? I hadn't heard about that, and since you've done so much research, I'd appreciate it.

      2 months ago
    • starshine2006's Avatar
      starshine2006

      There have been very few scientific studies, but anecdotal evidence/personal stories abound. The most famous is the story of Rick Simpson. Israel researchers have done studies in mice and also invitro. It is difficult to formulate a study to adhere to NIH guidelines, and this is given for the reason that more studies are not done in the USA. All information was gathered via the internet... Both scientific papers and via blogs, personal experiences. Here is a link to start your quest. https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/patient/cannabis-pdq . Another page you may be interested in is https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=cbd+oil. Just type cbd oil in the search box. Hope this information helps. It is important to do your own research, and not allow hope to keep you from traditional medical approaches.

      2 months ago
    • BarbarainBham's Avatar
      BarbarainBham

      Thank you! Believe me, I would never consider stopping traditional medicine. I have to take a chemo pill daily as long as I want to live, and I'm not in remission.

      2 months ago
    • BarbarainBham's Avatar
      BarbarainBham

      wmsavs, wishing you the best with CBD!
      Sorry I was adamant even "in all caps" at the beginning! (I was hungry!)

      2 months ago

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