• Conspiracy Theory?

    Asked by marshala1 on Monday, March 18, 2013

    Conspiracy Theory?

    Many sources claim that the medical community is in cohoots with the pharmaceutical industry and really don't want to find a cure for cancer. Many claim to have a simple cure involving diet, herbs, (even treatment for iodine insufficiency?). How totally reprehensible to make such claims! A dear friend who recently passed away (and was actually married to a doctor and was herself a physical therapist bought into the "juicing" and "coffee enema" cure. Can anything be done about this?

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    • carm's Avatar

      That is such a big problem, I agree. I am attaching a few links to highlight the problem. The first is a link that highlights the books of Dr. Ben Goldacre who exposes these frauds with his book. I have watched his lectures on other sites, and I think this site has a snippet of them as well. The other link is to a documentary called "Cancer Sells." which is free to watch on topdocumentary.com if you join (for free). I think it is also available on youtube. It is about those cancer cure all places in Mexico and the first time I saw this, I had a patient that had just arrived the day before at the first place exposed on the film. She is still doing the coffee enemas and they have already taken her money and kicked her to the curb. Another documentary worth seeing is "Pink Ribbons Inc." and you can see a portion on youtube. I bought the documentary and the book, and if you really want to get your blood boiling...that is the one to watch. I have Ben Goldacre's books, and they do address the issue. However, he practices in the UK, but he does have issues here as well in his books. The bad science site should give you some resources to pursue. Best of luck to you, Carm.


      over 3 years ago
    • SueRae1's Avatar

      Everyone is looking for a miracle cure. Unfortunately this mind set is pervasive in so many areas of our lives, just look at the weight loss industry, to name one.
      I do believe that alternative and complimentary medicine can be a wonderful addition to any treatment plan and can really help, but you need cutting edge medicine as your first line of treatment. For example with my oncologists' OK I am taking supplements, have regular massage and energy work, practice mediation and do yoga and Pilates. I was seeing an NP regularly before my advanced Kidney cancer diagnosis in 2009, but she bowed out of treating me, because as she said "You need to be treated by an oncology team from now on, and I do not feel comfortable and am knowledgeable enough to continue seeing you while you are being treated for cancer." I still take Remedy Rescue and some of the sinus homeopathic cures she prescribed because the work for me and are approved by my team.

      over 3 years ago
    • Ydnar2xer's Avatar

      When I was first diagnosed with this second bout of breast cancer, I was visiting my neighbor and her brother & his girlfriend were there. After I mentioned my cancer, they both jumped on the bandwagon about the "Cancer Cure Conspiracy"--how the drug companies make more money by "pretending" there is no cure, when of course, THEY knew there really was a cure. I asked them how they knew that, and they both insisted it was true--BECAUSE IT WAS ON THE INTERNET, LOL! And they were serious! I protested, and they kept insisting, so I said, "I'm gonna have to agree to disagree with you on that!" and I left soon after. (Talk about IGNORANT!) (AND PARANOID!) Oh my! Who needs this kind of XXXX when you're facing cancer, anyway?

      over 3 years ago
    • Clyde's Avatar

      A cure for cancer if the holy grail of medical research. If it existed, I would have a name, a marketing campaign and a very happy CEO behind it. The profit from finding the cure would far out pace any current therapies. The pharmaceutical company that does find it, will become the greatest and most powerful company on earth. The conspiracy theorists are XXX into the wind on that one.

      over 3 years ago
    • Ydnar2xer's Avatar

      LOL Clyde, you nailed it!

      over 3 years ago
    • CAS1's Avatar

      Nothing makes more "Crazy" on the subject of cancer than this.. Unless of course we start to talk about inadequate funding. Everyday Doctors die of cancer, everyday someone they love die of cancer, everyday children die of cancer.

      Some of the best minds in the world are cancer reserchers devoting their whole lives..60-80 hour weeks looking into microscopes trying to find a cure. And they make a fraction of what they could make.

      Does any idiot out there think that Steve Jobs would not know about a cure for cancer. Really?
      I cannot even talk to people who spew this nonsence.

      over 3 years ago
    • CAS1's Avatar

      What is a conspiracy is Cancer reserch funding..A wonderful book "Racing for the cure" written by a Phd with cancer..I donated a large number of the books to my local libraries some years ago.

      If you want o know about an agency go to Guidestar.com and you can pull IRS data for free.
      You can see what CEO's of organizations make, and how few dollars actually go to reserch.

      I give my donations direct to a reserch hospital. This is where the breakthroughs are comming from. I might do another post with more data.

      over 3 years ago
    • nancyjac's Avatar

      It really makes me angry too. But unfortunately it is caviat emptor since diets and juicing and herbs and supplements are not regulated by the FDA.

      over 3 years ago
    • webbsurvivor's Avatar

      Not sure why it matters. I say try anything thats not poisonous, and if it works, hallejuah. What person would refuse chemo because of a statement of that type? Its all we have right now. I believe gene therapy is the real answer, but that hasnt been unraveled yet, so use the best we have currently. People do not know how hurtful and frustrating the things they say when you are sick can be. They may be angry to see you suffer after treatments, or scared to lose their friend. Lets be serious, each persons cancer is unique. I believe in natural medicine but I'd eat bugs if they proved it helped beat cancer. Remember, the medical community is just as sceptical of naturopathy, and its had its successes too.

      over 3 years ago
    • Schlegel's Avatar

      Cancer is multiple diseases, so there cannot be "a" cure for cancer.
      I am leary of anything that promises the world. There is a cancer treatment center, actually they have multiple locations. A friend was eager to go there because they said "We will do this" whereas a major medical center told her "We will try." I saw that as a red flag, and I was right. She died soon after.
      I do not do the coffee enemas, but if an alternative treatment looks harmless, I will try it, so I eat turmeric and lots of mushrooms.

      over 3 years ago
    • MMBAC's Avatar

      I do believe there are multiple things out there that can work. I have had surgery and chemo and it didn't work for me. In fact there is no targeted chemo for my genetic mutation with my cancer. I think it makes sense to try to bring the body to homeostasis so it can heal itself. I don't want to get into a war of words of alternative and medical treatment. I do believe that this journey is unique personal and so very hard for each and every one of us. We have all seen, heard or experienced successes and failures in both types of treatment. If chemo worked for me I probably would believe on it, but it didn't work for me. I guess what I am trying to say is that we all should try to be respectful of each other and the choices we make in regard to our own specific treatment program. None of us ever know if we will beat this or if it will come back if we do beat it. The sad truth is that not all of us will beat this matter how we choose for treatment. I do pray for everyone on this site. Patients, caregivers, loved ones I hope for everyone to have good health. God bless.

      over 3 years ago
    • CAS1's Avatar

      The problem is: Everyday people are seeking alternative treatments "Instead of" traditional treatments. People are loosing their lives by not taking treatments.

      I take vitamins, I try and eat right, I beleive stress breaks down the immune system so I exercise and do meditation. I try to live a more joy filled life as I think that balance is just as important as good food and taking care of ones self.

      But, I follow what the Doctors say as I sincerly trust them.

      On the other hand MSK has an entire team of researchers looking for cures from plants and other natural sources so I think that this area is worth investigation.But there is no conspiracy connection.

      And I had read somewhere from a reliable source some years ago that 10% of people who were told there was nothing more that could be done for them at leading cancer centers leave and are alive 5 years later.. without any treatments.

      This comment bothers me when I think about the children who suffer with cancer more than my own cancer journey. Any of us would certainly do what ever we could to take away these treatments from them.

      I have seen the pain in my own Doctors eyes after they have treated a baby with radiation or a child with chemo. These people who make these comments have no right to say such things.

      over 3 years ago
    • Nomadicme's Avatar

      When all hope is gone, people will turn to whatever gives them hope. Can't blame them for that.

      Did you know that the future of pharmaceutical companies is pinned on oncology (ie oncology drugs). With so many chronic condition patents expiring, oncology is where the money is. Can you blame a few conspiracies given the facts?

      I do wish our government put more effort into public health. Diet and bad food are driving chronic illnesses such as diabetes (and I wouldn't be surprised cancer. A BMI of 25 or more has been linked to Breast Cancer). So, I want to know, where do my taxes go if my government is not focused on the well being of its citizens?

      I'll get off my soapbox now.

      over 3 years ago
    • Shapoval's Avatar

      Many sources claim that the medical community is in cahoots with the pharmaceutical industry and really don't want to find a cure for cancer? Cancer is Big Business. Cancer is cured. But cancer researchers and pharmaceutical companies are keeping the cure a secret because they're making so much money. Big Pharma! The truth is that a large number of very prominent conspiracy theories have turned out to actually be true. Cancer researchers ignore iron-cancer information-1905-2014. Baba Vanga (Vangelia Dimitrova) was a blind Bulgarian mystic, clairvoyant and herbalist. Researchers claim that Vanga foretold the break-up of the Soviet Union, the Chernobyl disaster, the date of Stalin's death, the sinking of the Russian submarine Kursk, and the September 11 attacks. In 1994, Vanga predicted: A day will come and cancer will be chained in iron! A cure, which shall cure people from this illness, must contain the iron, because this element is decreasing in the human organism. The Father of Oncology (Vadim Shapoval) says that a cell needs to have iron overload (when excess iron accumulates within cellular organelles) before it becomes cancerous. In inherited forms of cancer, parents give their sons and daughters abnormal iron metabolism within various organs. Iron disorders (sickle cell disease, thalassemia, hemochromatosis, etc.) are inherited and can be confirmed with genetic testing. Genes that maintain iron homeostasis may facilitate iron uptake, storage or egress, or the regulation of any of these processes. The spectrum of known disorders of iron metabolism has expanded dramatically over the past years. Any cancer is caused by iron-related genes (numerous genes directly/indirectly involved in iron metabolism / hereditary cancers) and iron-related events (when excess iron accumulates within the cells, tissues, and organs due to various carcinogenic lifestyle events / nutrition, tobacco use, physical activity, traumatic injuries, infections, etc. / sporadic cancers). According to the Ferromagnetic Cancer Theory (Theory from the Old Testament; Iron Conception), any human cell should be interpreted: 1) as a society of atoms and molecules; 2) as a society of organelles; 3) as a society of dia-, para-, superpara-, ferri- and ferromagnetic nanoparticles that have certain local magnetic contacts. Cancer occurs through excessive accumulation of superpara-, ferri- and ferromagnetic nanoparticles within cancerous cells. Intracellular molecules FeO;Fe2O3;Fe3O4 are the main creators of intracellular superpara-, ferri- and ferromagnetic nanoparticles that produce (magnetically) genomic rearrangements, chaotic chromosomal aberrations and chromothripsis within cancerous cells. Any cancer is a subtle iron disease; intracellular superpara-ferri-ferromagnetic 'infection'. Magnetism (a class of physical phenomena; the force of attraction or repulsion between nano-objects) causes cancer. Ceramic needles can suppress any tumors and large metastases; can quickly create harmless infiltrations (harmless necroses; deposits of cells that die; benign capsules); can enter solution [sulfur (2%) + olive oil (98%); 36.6C - 39.0C] to tumors and large metastases. Anti-iron slow blood loss (even 75%) [hemoglobin control], anti-iron goat’s milk diet and anti-iron drinking water containing hydrogen sulfide can neutralize any micro-metastases and isolated tumor cells. Vadim Shapoval (Father of Oncology) http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/170339 ; http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/171142 ; http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/171557 ; http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/172052 ; http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/172451 ; http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/172864 ; http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/opinions/173126 ; http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/267552.php ; http://www.ovarian-cancer-facts.com/what-is-cancer.html ; http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/37661/title/Different-Cancers--Same-Mutations/ ; https://www.whatnext.com/questions/conspiracy-theory ; Together We (WhatNext, Ovarian Cancer Facts, Medical News Today, The Scientist, TIME, Google, Facebook and Vadim Shapoval) Will Beat Cancer

      over 2 years ago

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