• Great Benefits from Obama Care.....Republicans STILL hate it....Wonder WHY?

    Asked by barryboomer on Tuesday, August 4, 2015

    Great Benefits from Obama Care.....Republicans STILL hate it....Wonder WHY?

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    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      I had dinner, last night, with someone who got screwed under Obamacare. I believe it has done a lot of good for the impovrished and for those who work for corporate. Taxpayers pick up the slack for payments for poor folks and nearly everyone can get a bone properly set.

      It was explained to me, however, that the middle class kinda got screwed. My friend had been running a small law firm when Obamacare came in. Their group insurance was cancelled. As a small business, they werent covered under Obama's plan.

      I also was shocked to learn that my friend's monthly payment for Medicare has been upped to a shocking amount. I know that by the time I retired, illness and lack of proper diagnosis had decimated my finances. I was unable to afford the Medicare plan I preferred (F). The monthly cost for Medicare has been reworked somehow and, being only 4 years younger than me, my friend pays 7.5 times more per month for Medicare coverage than do I. My insurance costs, figured out under a pre crazy Congress new rules, costs only $4 more per month than a pal 10 years older than me.

      All ointments have flies. I do not at all understand why Medicare is estopped from bargaining with drug companies. Similarly, why is it physician's can decide whether or not they wish to accept Medicare or feel they are due more than Medicare allows.

      Long and short of it all is that I am still for a single payer plan.

      Growing up, the doctor lived in the neighborhood in a slightly bigger place than the rest because he had to accommodate a waiting room in his place. Everybody was in awe of the vacations Dr. Lowy and his wife could afford but gratitude allowed that the good doctor (who made house calls) was entitled to his due for caring for everybody.

      almost 4 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      Agreed on Single Payer and NO Insurance Companies. Obama wanted that but this is the best he could get at the time. We spend twice as much and live the shortest of all the Countries that have SOME KIND of cradle to grave health plan. We can't get it because of the Insurance Lobby and that's the truth....It's a big payoff and bribe to keep the crap we have. Republicans don't want that either.....not sure what they want except their OWN insurance....cretins and creeps.

      almost 4 years ago
    • CAS1's Avatar
      CAS1

      There is a petition going round insisting that Congress must have Obama care for themselves and their families..I signed it..

      almost 4 years ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      I'm all for a single-payer health insurance system. If it works for so many other, less wealthy countries, it should work for us, too. Lotsa luck getting anything like that anytime soon. The GOP is still trying to dismantle Medicare, a system that's been a lifesaver to so many, and to which we've paid into for our all of our working lives. As for MediCAID...we KNOW what the GOP would love to do with that! Same thing they've been trying to do to Social Security ever since St. Roosevelt created it. Keep us barefoot and pregnant is the GOP's goal.

      almost 4 years ago
    • Erik1059's Avatar
      Erik1059

      I am a republican and I hate it. It is another form of wealth redistribution, take from someone who works for something and give it someone who does not. The government is horrible at health care, just look at the Veterans Administration.

      almost 4 years ago
    • gonewest's Avatar
      gonewest

      They love the philosophy of Ayn Rand, a Russian atheist. In her first essay, first edition of "We The Living", she states "What are your masses but mud to be ground underfoot, fuel to be burned for those who deserve it?" All of Rand's protagonists were inheritors of wealth and hated having to have the back of any other person, ever. Of course her "self-determination", and "rational self-interest" (read selfishness) depended completely on the eradication and criminalization of all religion. In short, Paul Ryan,et al, people who lived off of others' charity while growing up, are not telling you this part. It's a shame the money we pay in taxes must go to the gigantic military-industrial complex Barry Goldwater, a staunch Republican, warned about. The arms manufacturers have been doing back flips since at least Iraq with all this war. We could use the money here at home. Americans love to grandstand about their support of veterans, but there is no longer an "I've got your back" reality. They love ideologies, but real people suffer and die because of them. Wealth redistribution? Yes. Subsidies of corporations is wealth redistribution and it should stop.

      almost 4 years ago
    • gonewest's Avatar
      gonewest

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/We_the_Living
      Reference to above and very interesting reading.

      almost 4 years ago
    • Schlegel's Avatar
      Schlegel

      I do not understand how your Medicare went up that much. My Medicare B premium went up only $11 in six years. My supplemental went up $90 in six years, about double. Do you have Medicare Advantage? If so, blame the insurance company for the steep premium increase.
      I've also heard some men complain that their insurance went up because birth control is now covered. Never mind that Viagra has been covered for years.

      almost 4 years ago
    • Erik1059's Avatar
      Erik1059

      To gonwest, I read the link you put, looks interesting, will put on my "to read" list. Thanks

      almost 4 years ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      gonewest, yes! Ayn Rand was probably a psychopath. I'd wager that most of the GOP consists of psychopaths: no empathy, no conscience, no guilt. Those with that personality disorder DO tend to rise to positions of power, especially if they have money to begin with.

      Re Ayn Rand's atheism, she was a horrible human being, but her atheism was no reflection of that. And Paul Ryan and other Libertarians probably never allude to her atheism when espousing her disgusting agenda. After all, in order to run for any political office in this country one has to at least pretend to believe in God and religion - to many (most?) Americans, there is nothing worse than an atheist! I'm an atheist; I respect others' religious beliefs; I want a governmental system similar to Canada's, Scandanavia's, blah. Lotsa luck getting that here and now (Bernie, you listening?).

      almost 4 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      The Government is NOT involved in the Administering Healthcare the Insurance Companies were kept in place....I am on Medicare.....I pay 20 % and about $100 a month and it's fantastic.....In the Hospital it's also I pay 20% BUT there are supplement plans to stop the 20% but cost about $170 a month...SO Medicare is NOT free but it really works well......

      almost 4 years ago
    • gonewest's Avatar
      gonewest

      Yeah Carol, not bashing atheists here. Rand is no shining example of atheist life, or of any kind of morality. Just wanted to inform that the religious conservatives support her philosophy and in the same breath condem atheists as being immoral. This is how little they really know about the philosophy called "objectivism" driving the GOP today.

      http://m.csmonitor.com/Books/chapter-and-verse/2012/0814/Paul-Ryan-does-an-about-face-on-Ayn-Rand

      almost 4 years ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      gonewest, I'm sorry if I implied that you were bashing atheists! I know you weren't. Hugs from an unrepentant A!

      almost 4 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      I actually enjoyed Fountainhead and Atlas....there is a little truth in her philosophy but she goes off the rails and is actually cruel.....I do believe a lot of the Artists and Inventors and Songwriters etc. are sometimes taken for granted.

      almost 4 years ago
    • gonewest's Avatar
      gonewest

      Well Barry, even a serial killer has some good in them. She is cruel; a Social Darwinist like Mussolini and Hitler.

      Songwriters, painters, writers etc., are actually making product. They are exploited by middlemen like the agents, managers, who have made the road to dissemination of this product dependent upon themselves and up until recently (utube), a performing artist had no other way to be heard. Same with insurance companies. Why are they paid to act as "facilitators"? They produce nothing. Their passion is finding a way to deny your claim so the CEO can pocket your money. I am in all the way with the health systems in place in Norway, Sweden, Switzerland.

      almost 4 years ago
    • cllinda's Avatar
      cllinda

      It has helped my family. So I have no harsh words against the Affordable Health Care Act. It keeps my son on our insurance until he turns 26, and hopefully has a job that will give him good insurance. And it also keeps us insured if my husband switches jobs and has another insurance company. Pre-existing conditions will not keep us from being covered. So in these two cases, I think it's worth having the government involved.
      Now if this coverage had happened while Bush was in office, would there be the same amount of hate that this is bringing, or is it just because Obama is the one that helped get it passed, and he's a different race than most of the wealthy republicans that are against it?
      To me, 16 million people now have coverage and can go see doctors when they need to, instead of clogging up emergency rooms for minor ailments like colds and flu. Emergency Rooms should be for emergencies, and not because you don't have a doctor or health insurance and the hospital has to treat you. And the consumers pay for this, in our own bills.

      almost 4 years ago
    • SullyJackson's Avatar
      SullyJackson

      Just wanted to respond to the issue of Medicare premiums. I was a Human Resource Manager in my “past life”. My duties included negotiating insurance premiums. Therefore, I know that many people have a difficult time understanding insurance. It can be daunting.

      FYI - Medicare parts A and B premiums are exactly the same for everyone. Other parts, F, D, etc. are offered by individual insurance companies. While the coverage offered, for example for part F of the same level, are virtually the same, the cost varies by insurance company. That is why it is important to do your research each year during the enrollment process.

      The Affordable Health Care Act is completely different and has nothing to do with people on Medicare. It is for people before they reach 65 or are disabled.

      Personally, I would have been in trouble without it. I was dz with lung cancer after only having insurance for two months. I was self-employed at the time and could not afford insurance prior to the new law. I would probably be dead by now without it because I simply wouldn’t have gone to the doctor for another year when I was eligible for Medicare.

      Thank you lawmakers who had the compassion foresight to at-tempt to give everyone the same opportunity to be healthy. I hope this struggle to get the whole country health care continues.

      almost 4 years ago
    • BoiseB's Avatar
      BoiseB

      My son has no insurance. He cannot afford to even pay the fine. He has tried to get it reduced and the fine has been reduced some. He hopes and prays that if he is in an accident he is killed because if he went into the ER when he was unconscious he would not be able to pay. I find that my Medicare supplement has not gone up much but benefits have gone way down. And many Dr. do not accept Medicare patients those that do only accept a few patients a year and there is often more than a year wait for their services.

      almost 4 years ago
    • BoiseB's Avatar
      BoiseB

      By the way I am a Libertarian.

      almost 4 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      Sweden has a great plan....

      almost 4 years ago
    • Schlegel's Avatar
      Schlegel

      BoiseB, do you have Medicare Advantage? I have regular Medicare A and B plus the supplement with Plan F. I have major problems this year, just learned yesterday I have a compression fracture, been to an emergency four times since March, and I have not paid anything except the premiums.

      almost 4 years ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      A couple of points, please.

      1. My friend just got on to medicare last year or two. I pay $114/mo. My friend pays $752 plus another $200 and change for the F supplement which I was unable to afford. My older friend paid $104/month. The new disparity is HUGE. It seems, Sully Jackson that not everybody pays the same amount anymore.

      2. I just finished rereading both the Fountainhead (an individual's effect on society) and Atlas Shrugged (society's effect on the individual). Ayn Rand was a dyed in the wool, no holds barred capitalist. She was under the false impression that producers (who she thought CEOs were) would have to treat workers fairly in order to produce. She also was under a silly cloud of misreasoning ( being sarchastic) that people were entitled to education and preferences.

      In A. S. she exercised her displeasure with bureaucrats. Although the society she created is now said to be Socialist (just ask Carl Rove or the Koch brothers and their gang members), it was more like Communism and it had the same flaws and unfairness that total government control always brings. She actually created a distasteful State somewhat like what we have now. The thing which she remembered and which both the fictional politicians of her creation and those who are in power (in Congress & much of the Supreme Court and a President who turned out to be a Centrist) now discounted was that people will only take so much before they turn their backs and walk away. In her Plutocracy, the State took from the wealthy producers until they were no longer able to produce and gave to their buddies instead. Does that sound anything like government contracts for the favored few and zip for the rest? In her story, workers were estopped from changing jobs (not a lot of work choices these days, are there?). In very short order, there was no work from which to choose (dismantling of or lack of maintenance on infrastructure) and the producer walked away along with the workers.

      3. If you wanna talk about Atheists, check out Richard Dawkins on you tube. He is reasonable, passionate, inteligent, and funny.

      4. Of course I disagree with some of Ayn's points. What I found especially interesting were her views on love. She described it as an always faithful and supportive and understanding beast while, in her own life, she stood by and cared for her husband when his health failed and all despite his constant philandering prior to his illness.

      almost 4 years ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Did you ever get so into your rambling that you forgot your original point?

      My point was that Capitalism can cry all it wishes about self determination and other righteous garbage but the point remains that they build on the efforts, blood, money and toil of those who came before.

      For the airlines to become a viable option, the tax payer had to build the runways. For the trucking company filling orders, the populace built the roads on which you travel. For the box stores selling imports, the people built the docks. Etceteras down the line. I believe the government exists to pool our money, not for profit, but for the basic common good. The more opportunity afforded, the more which needs to be given back.

      My only point is that success requires a tithe to give back for the accommodation of the next guy and as thanx for the opportunity all the ordinary folks provided.

      The heard headed crazies forget this just as did Ayn Rand.

      almost 4 years ago
    • Erik1059's Avatar
      Erik1059

      Geekling, with all that said, what is your thoughts on the question?

      almost 4 years ago
    • BoiseB's Avatar
      BoiseB

      @Schlegel I have all my Medicare programs through an insurance company associated with my Health Care System. I have a noncancer medical problem and there is a much needed surgery but I cannot get it before a year and a half. And there are many Dr.s in the area who refuse to take Medicare patients, they will take the my insurance company just not the Medicare part.

      almost 4 years ago

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