• Has anyone tried rigvir or other alternative therapy for pancreatic cancer?

    Asked by windsaloft on Thursday, February 16, 2017

    Has anyone tried rigvir or other alternative therapy for pancreatic cancer?

    My brother has just been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, the symptoms of which he ignored for many months.
    Does anyone have any FIRST hand experience with successful rigvir or alternative therapies, including nutritional, with or without conventional treatments?
    Info I've found (pro and con) is mainly anecdotal, especially on the con side.While I think there is a special place in XXX for anyone who knowingly pedals false information/ products/treatments to a cancer patient, I also believe there are incentives to suppress alternative therapies that may very well have merit. I'm amazed at the irony of critics who cite a single death where alternative therapies were attempted as reason to condemn that approach- by their own standard, not one single therapy for any form of cancer would be left standing. In grateful appreciation to the builders of this site and those who contribute to it.

    11 Answers from the Community

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    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      I met a man who blamed Chaga extract for his pancreatic cancer remission. I am friends with a gal who (with help & loads of it) radically changed her lifestyle and rid herself of lung cancer. I have personal empirical knowledge that cannabis oil 'bleaches' dark skin spots and have spoken to other folks who, similarly, have used alternative methodologies to rid themselves of a variety of cancers.

      Of course, lol, none of this 'hearsay' points to anything but Western medicine as effective against cancers.

      Best wishes to you and to yours

      8 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      Western medicine - and possibly Eastern, Northern, and Southern - is researching constantly to find better treatments of pancreatic cancer. I hope they do, and soon. My mother died of it, in 1980. I would put no faith in so-called alternative treatments. I'm sorry about your brother.

      8 months ago
    • elissa5's Avatar
      elissa5

      Good morning ! I have neuroendocrine cancer of the pancreas and Liver highly aggressive but yet different from adenocarcinoma that your brother has. I had 6 rounds of chemo and told to enjoy the time I had left. I turned to alternatives using wheat grass smoothies everyday, large amounts of carrot juice, cottage cheese part of the budwig protocol, tons of supplements and then Cannabis oil. It took me a year on cannabis oil before I got my first clear scan ...that was Nov 2014. I will take a maintenance dose of Cannabis oil for life. I am one of the lucky ones it worked for me. Check out the website chrisbeatcancer.com, he has many testimonies of people who healed their cancer with alternatives and not cannabis oil. . He has a couple of pancreatic cancer stories and what they did. Best of luck.

      8 months ago
    • cards7up's Avatar
      cards7up

      Pancreatic cancer can progress quickly. What stage does he have? Is this his choice not to do conventional treatment? I've yet to find any human trials on alternative tx's and don't listen to testimonials. There's always a Paul Harvey in there, and here's the rest of the story!!!
      Take care, Judy

      8 months ago
    • elissa5's Avatar
      elissa5

      Judy I agree with you Pancreatic cancer is not one to mess around with and is aggressive. What next does have a 15 year survivor Russ. It upsets me that you would dismiss anything that is not conventional. If you haven’t an experience with it…you really shouldn’t comment. I don’t push what I did on anyone…I share my story and encourage people to research and decide for themselves.

      8 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      elissa5, everyone here is free to comment on anything, as long as we don't attack anyone personally. I don't need to have had pancreatic cancer, or any other cancer, to say with assurance that alternative treatments have yet to undergo rigorous, scientific research methods and to show, through those methods, that they work. If and when alternative treatments are proven scientifically to be effective against cancers, we can all rejoice - and oncologists will be the first to rejoice and start using those treatments. Until then, however, I'll stick to treatments proven to be effective, if not for everyone.

      8 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      But there is the rub, @Carool.

      Because (with rare exception) natural remedies cant be patented, no private companytl is willing to fund such a study. Not that he is a whole lot different from our prior Fearless Leaders, but our government to which we pay our taxes and which is charged with our general welfare, seems to prefer weapons, wars, and now walls to projects which make some sense.

      8 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      @geekling, whatever the reasons there are no scientifically-based double-blind studies of alternative treatments, it remains true that no such proof of their efficacy exists. Without such proof, why believe they work? Anecdotal statements don't mean anything to me. I wouldn't bet my life on those "treatments." And I'm not saying that people shouldn't try them, if they don't interfere with standard medical treatments. I'm just saying I think alternative treatments haven't (yet) been proven to do anything but perhaps make people feel better emotionally.

      8 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      There, as rhings are, wont ever be double blind studies.

      Radiation and chemotherapy as cancer treatments are less than 100 years old.

      How do you suppose people survived tumors and cysts prior?

      8 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      Cysts are one thing. Chemo and radiation are rarely used on them, and usually, depending on where and how large they are, they aren't life-threatening.

      As for cancers pre-chemo and radiation, there was still surgery. Many people DIDN'T survive. The percentage of those surviving cancer has risen considerably since the time before chemo and
      radiation. And alternative treatments weren't available to cancer patients back then, either.

      8 months ago
    • fairytale440's Avatar
      fairytale440

      I really don't know how some plp here can put so much faith in conventional treatments? Chemo only has a 2% cute rate and to me that could just be luck,, chemo does not kill the stem cells so if the cancer went to nodes more than likely invasive, and with all certainty will return in yrs,,usually before5 yrs, The cure to cancer lies in fixing the malfunctioning immune system that caused it in the first place. So with this knowledge how can anyone trade about conventional treatments,,,that have not changed for at least 50 yrs? Most chemo s cause secondary cancers because they are carcinogenic and list it on the label. The Truth About Cancer Really Opened my eyes and my own experience, with my breast cancer coming back in Nov they I originally for in July of 2012 , now it's under my pec muscle and under my arm in the only2 nodes I had left, and I have a new lesion in my Lung now? Traditional treatment doesnt even know if my lung nodule is a new primary lung cancer or a spread of my breast cancer? They at Penn actually forgot about me for2 weeks after telling me they were going to get a biopsy of my lung,,,yelling me they couldn't take it all out too dangerous and it might be nothing? Really,,,I called radiologists who told me believe me it is something,don't know why they are saying this? Then in 2 weeks head oncologist calls saying she forgot about me only that someone questioned what happened to me that hadn't heard my name mentioned after my initial visit.? Really??? Now she called to say they can't biopsy the lung have to remove at minimum a third of my lung tho get a cent tumor,, I said no way, make your minds up will you! So she says how about we biopsy under ur muscle and arm and just forget about lung for now, so we did that in December,,,came back malignant! She's offering taxol,,,nothing else and I was on a vaccine trial prior to this and was told by that Doctor who went to Moffitt he would have a special vaccine for me and wouldn't make me travel to Florida from PA, he said he had my back don't worry,,,Dec21 now he won't even respond to me. I told this Oncologist I had a bad reaction to Taxol and there had tho be something else,,what about the trial? She said I am no longer a candidate for vaccines, I said how about Metformin or insulin potentiated chemo which only kills the cancer cells because they have10 receptors on them opposed to regular cells which only have 2 glucose receptors, get it works for their Pet Scans why not use the simular for chemo purposes,,,her response,,,I don't believe in that,,,I said well you believe in something that carpet bombs the entire already sick weak body that doesn't kill stem cells so it will return and more aggressive worth a her2 I don't need that, I suggested herceptin and pergetha now tho do something,she firmly said NO,,her way our the highway,,,the XXX egos I was warned about from my local Oncologists he just wasn't kidding! So 4 months passed and btw I got my primary to order the Pet Scan,she refused to until I could get inn for an ov. I said it had been 2 yrs Ya know since you ordered any imaging with a Stage 3b her2 es+ 20 with 9 positive nodes, she didn't care,,,refused! So now 4 months and nothing has been done for my cancer or my being body,mind,or soul! So I contacted CTCA and started that process,,,again they forgot about me for2 weeks again, all apologetic, anyway they finally take Medicare in2012 they refused me because of that! The place used to be wonderful took my Mother there when they opened in 2005 , couldn't ask for a more compassionate place. Only thing that I didn't like them was I'd you couldn't walk in the front doors without assistance they wouldn't treat you, that has changed as did alot since then. But I had to miss an appointment and I can't walk now only a few steps and they informed me I need tho hire a caregiver as they have no one to push my wheelchair no one just to get to the Doctors office, I was thinking wow ,this sucks,,,but then talked to another person and they said they didn't know why the other girl told me that,,,running into a lot of that. So since last Wednesday when I missed my appointment cause I was so upset I didn't sleep all nite even with a sleeping pill and its over an hour drive which I would have to go alone so I was worried I was just too tired and they said I would be there all day! I haven't heard back Despite 2 calls to them and an email no response yet,,,,like what's happening Monday anything? Traditional care,,,science based medicine,,,yeah right don't get me started. I feel like no one cares and from the numerous people that admitted they forgot about me and offered me one choice over the phone take out it leave it,,,I never heard of such BS! I wouldn't call HUP slim Pickens or CTCA,,BOTH WELL ESTABLISHED PLACES, I WOULD LOVE TO GO GET OXYGEN TREATMENTS WHICH STOP CANCER IN IT'S TRACTS,,,BUT NO ONE PIN THE EAST COAST WILL ORDER IT FOR ME, OR THE METFORMIN I have been asking for now for 2 yrs? I looked at the studies I that,,,seems I'd I would have taken it we wouldn't be here today, but my Oncologist wouldn't order it! Does anyone know of a open minded Oncologist or alternative doctor who treats cancer in my area . I am desperate or is anyone else from my area thinking of going to City of Hope or a Dr.Connealy in California , that would want to go with me for treatment,she just came out with the book The Cancer Resolution , supposed to have everything you need tho treat your cancer, I will be ordering that. Sorry for the long story and opinion about conventional treatments,,, I have lupus and Lymes so I cannot take radiation, Thank You All for listening to my storie here ,,,probably in the wrong place but I started out responding to the differences in conventional opposed to alternative treatments, and so true that anything in nature can't be patented so no one will put those funds up for any major studies, this is run by big Pharma as are the medical schools and the AMA and the FDA, THE VERY PEOPLE WHO TRAIN OUR DOCTORS AND ARE SUPPOSE TO PROTECT US! THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR OUR NEW PRESIDENT,,,I BELIEVE WE MUST CORRECT THIS MAJOR FLAW OUR MANY MANY COUNTLESS LIVES WILL BE LOST NOT TO MENTION THE SUFFERING. Food for thought,,,, Love & Light, Trish

      8 months ago

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