• Holistic route: turmeric, frankincense, eissac, CBD oil and Diet change

    Asked by Team_Jason on Tuesday, May 22, 2018

    Holistic route: turmeric, frankincense, eissac, CBD oil and Diet change

    Does anyone have experience, positive or negative, with holistic therapies?

    My husband is Stage IV colon cancer with possible Mets to bones. He’s already been on FolFox, Xelox, Folfiri, and FolFoxIri. He was just released from a immunotherapy trial due to progression. He is 38 and otherwise very healthy. Other than being thin...he looks great.

    We were considering going vegetarian, vegan, or pescatarian. We read about juicing but fear too much weight loss. He currently takes Marinol to help with appetite.

    15 Answers from the Community

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    • po18guy's Avatar
      po18guy

      Sorry to hear this. If you have exhausted all science-based therapies, then there is nothing to lose in trying anecdotal treatments. My dad tried such for lung cancer and promptly expired. Has his case been reviewed by the colo-rectal cancer group at a major NCI cancer center? Seeking treatment at such a facility for two aggressive lymphomas and Myelodysplastic Syndrome is the reason why I am still here. That, and a lot of prayer.

      2 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      do you live where medical marijuana is legal? I was at a conference where a man was telling how a friend of his was brought back from entering hospice to NED by using strong oils made with THC and CBD. This is all anecdotal, but he says that everyone in his support group of stage IV cancer survivors (his is lung, not sure about everyone else's), from young to old, has used his oil that he gets in Colorado and that they have all had shrinkage and/or are NED. According to him, everyone in other support groups where he meets that did not use the oil has had progression. Again ... this is what I was told, not what I know, but when options are limited, it might be worth a try.

      Did you call the NCI cancer center? They have the very latest therapies - just Phase I, mostly, I think. I would not stop until I had contacted these people. https://clinicalcenter.nih.gov/ I heard a director of the center speak last month and, even though I am currently doing fine, I started to see about joining their program.

      2 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      Please note, the NCI cancer center I am referencing is in Bethesda, MD. It is not "just" an NCI-designated facility.

      2 months ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      http://www.archivesofmedicine.com/medicine/plantbased-diets-and-phytonutrients-potential-health-benefits-and-disease-prevention.php?aid=21427 Vegan and some fish is the way to go. Curcumin, IP6, Green Tea Extract, Mushroom Extracts and some others are good. I can't get good Pot here so I don't know.

      2 months ago
    • cards7up's Avatar
      cards7up

      Going holistic may help build his immune system to help fight the cancer, but he's obviously progressing and doubt it will do anything to his cancer. It never hurts to try but do get another opinion on conventional treatments.

      2 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      I stayed alive for 13 years looking for a diagnosis for a squamous cell tumor.

      I was a raw vegan. Please also look @ AHCC. Fresh turmeric, ginger, so forth or fermented mushrooms (AHCC), graviola, reishi, chaga, etceteras. I threw everything I could at staying alive until I was able to convince a doctor that my problem did not require a happy pill nor a psycho. I often wonder if I might have been able to cure myself if I had simply known what was attacking mem

      They dont use CBD against cancer but a full extract cannabis oil (FECO). Like anything else, it isnt 100%. I think that is , perhaps, why nature has provided so many remedies. Did I mention infrared saunas?

      Dont go it alone. There are alternative health centers just like there are hospitals. Hippocrates in So Fla, Optimal Wellness in Austin & San Diego, Living Light in Atlanta, Eric Rivkin & Viktoras Kulvinskas Costa Rica and likely many many more. If my recommendation means anything, these are people and places I know.

      Yes, the "problem" for me was that I looked great. I had to gain 65 pounds just to get a diagnosis. Dont worry so much about weight loss. With proper raw & living foods methodology, weight normalizes @ neither too fat nor too thin.

      Best wishes & very good luck.

      2 months ago
    • Team_Jason's Avatar
      Team_Jason

      The only conventional treatment left for him is Lonsurf or Stivarga and their statistics suck.

      2 months ago
    • JaneA's Avatar
      JaneA

      Stivarga seems to help some colorectal patients remain stable. And the side effects seem manageable. From what I've seen anecdotally, Stivarga seems a better choice than Lonsurf. Combine Stivarga with complementary treatment - Vitamin D3 4000 mg daily, 325 mg aspirin, 4 cups of coffee daily (Dana Farber study) plus green tea or other herbal teas. I don't think that you should be afraid of protein. Cancer patients need protein to rebuild the damage done by treatment and by the cancer - so if you want to do a special diet, I'd go with pescatarian. I am so sorry that you're facing this. Best wishes.

      2 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      @JaneA there is more protein in young plants (sprouts & microgreens) than the meat/fish/poultry industry would admit or allow to their customers.

      All of the land animals humans normally eat get their protein from plants.

      All young fish which humans use as food also do pretty much the same.

      If one is going to eat fish, I would hope it to be fresh Atlantic wild caught and not farmed nor canned.

      Best healthy wishes

      2 months ago
    • homeeduc8ormom's Avatar
      homeeduc8ormom

      You may be interested in Chris Wark's journey with colon cancer. He had surgery, but refused chemo and instead used plant based nutrition/healing. His website is chrisbeatcancer.com

      about 1 month ago
    • KB2013's Avatar
      KB2013

      I would be checking with the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN or Cleveland Clinic, @'s one and two for gastro. I am cancer but, also lifelong gastro so, this is what I'd do. Take road trip.

      about 1 month ago
    • PatriSolo's Avatar
      PatriSolo

      I did a lot of alternative treatment with my 5FU (folfox and oxiplatin). Liposomal Curcurmin, EGCG (green tea extract), digestive enzymes, CBD oil, modified ketogenic diet (2 low glycemic fruit servings a day [one being the juiced apple], very limited complex carbs, all organic, free range chicken or turkey or ocean caught fish only (no beef or pork) no sugar, no artificial sweeteners, only stevia or erythritol), juicing (wheetgrass and beet, apple, carrot, ginger, apple), grow and eat broccoli sprouts, far IR sauna, alkalyzing shakes, turkey tail mushrooms, ozonated water, lots of immune building herbal supplements, intense daily exercise, plus much more. Made it to NED without surgery, although western doctors it COULDN’T happen. Natural Killer cell count is off the chart and the healthiest. I’ve ever been in my life.

      about 1 month ago
    • abrub's Avatar
      abrub

      I was advised to take Turkey Tail (coriolus versicolor) PSK - 3 g/day by an Integrative Med dr at Memorial Sloan Kettering. I don't know if this is the reason, but my tumor growth has slowed since I started it. (She advised the Mushroom Science formulation. Note: PSK is much more expensive than the PSP formulation, but PSK is the one that has more testing, and is used in Japan as part of their chemo.) I have no side effects from the supplement.

      about 1 month ago
    • BoiseB's Avatar
      BoiseB

      I am so glad you are using the term "holistic medicine" It means treating the whole patient. My medical center's mission statement mentions that it is that it takes an "holistic" approach to medicine. There are several Dr's in the system who are researching "integrative" medicine. My advice is always discuss this with your Dr. Then do some deep research not just google. If there is a university or even a community college near you go to their library and talk to one of the reference librarians ( I have worked several academic libraries and they are open to the community) Libraries have access to data bases not on Google. They can get information from the latest medical journals. Some can be printed out for a very small fee
      The next thing is to get a second opinion.
      I am a 8 year survivor of stage IV esophageal cancer and 5 year survivor of an agressive uterine sarcoma. Although I credit my survival to the prayers of others. I changed my lifestyle, did research, got a second opinion, and use several integrative techniques for pain control. I also have a companion cat.

      about 1 month ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Paul Stamets is THE mushroom man. He has done several TED talks and worked with his Mom's doctors to come up with the turkey tails protocol when she had breast cancer. She is now NED.

      His company is called Fungi Perfect. He has also come up with a mycellium that eats the oil from spills. These days he is working for the US Govt. I would write to him if I were ill and believed mushrooms could be of help.

      I believe in mushroom power. Best wishes & very good luck.

      about 1 month ago

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