• I ran across this statement on another site. Someone had announced that she was done with treatment and was NED

    Asked by GregP_WN on Wednesday, December 6, 2017

    I ran across this statement on another site. Someone had announced that she was done with treatment and was NED

    The doctor wanted to start her on Opdivo for a year. She was stage IV lung cancer. She was asking if the group thought she should get on the Opdivo right away or wait 3 months. Then this guy chimes in with Opdivo isn't needed, or the chemo but:

    "You can cure stage 4 lungs cancer, but by using another alternative treatment. You have two option 1St : by using dr sebi cell food, available in USA only. Or 2rd option vitamin b17 (apricot)"

    Suggesting that you can "cure" stage IV lung cancer with any kind of food or vitamin, is plain irresponsible and borderline crazy. However, each to their own, if this woman wants to roll the dice on fairy dust, it's her privilege to do it. Those of you that are newly diagnosed, please do your research and ask people who actually know something about the human body, cancer, and how to treat it before making extreme choices. We want to keep you around for a while!

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    • lh25's Avatar
      lh25

      Very good comment Greg! I got so tired of the "they have a cure for cancer, but it's not well known" comments.

      Eating well is very important for lots of reasons, but I don't think it's a cure.

      12 days ago
    • HeidiJo's Avatar
      HeidiJo

      When I was newly diagnosed, I ran into a business associate and told him that someone else would be handling our account for awhile, and I told him why. He looked at me panicked and asked if I was going to get treatment. I told him, yes, I was. He said that a friends wife was diagnosed with Lymphoma also and she decided to cure it naturally with supplements and herbs. But the time they realized that the natural remedies werent working, it was too late. She passed a couple of months later. I know that the chemo sucks, but I agree with Greg, do your research.

      12 days ago
    • BuckeyeShelby's Avatar
      BuckeyeShelby

      By all means, everyone has the right to decide whether to treat traditionally or non-traditionally. However, without lots of evidence and lot of oncologists backing a natural cure, I personally would stick w/the chemo, no matter how heinous it can be!

      12 days ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      There is a fella in New Jersey who sells apricot kernels. The Feds arrested him, twice, so far.

      They cant convict him of false or leading advertising because he really believes the apricot kernels cured him ,, the kernels and Jesus, he says, Because he really believes it, he isn't saying anything false. Because he is NED, what can they do to him? He just tells his story as he sees it.

      The Judge has twice let him continue.

      It is legal, it seems, to tell what happened to you and offer the methodology to someone else. It is not legal to say any particular thing is a cure.

      And I am not a lawyer either.

      But I believe certain marijuana extracts can dissipate squamous cell on the skin. I believe that raw and living foods can assist in shrinking tumors. I believe that the US diet is not nutritionally adequate for human health. I believe genetically modified foods can cause a host of ills in time.

      My beliefs don't much affect anyone else.

      12 days ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      It terrifies me when advice is given to new patients, especially, to eat healthy and all will be well or to do this or that alternatively to more traditional treatments. So many desperate people might put their hope and lives in the hands of these evangelists ... to their potential detriment.

      Eating a good diet has its place, I presume, but it won't cure difficult cancers. Neither will a bunch of supplements.

      With all of that said, if i was that woman, Greg, I would be very tempted to take a 3 month break before beginning Opdivo. (But, my doctors would NOT support that decision.)

      12 days ago
    • BuckeyeShelby's Avatar
      BuckeyeShelby

      Hey Geekling. Aren't apricot pits poisonous? Or is that peach pits? Some sort of pit has arsenic in 'em, don't they? Not arguing against you, just can't remember.

      12 days ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Hey, @BuckeyeShelby.

      Apple seeds are laced with arsenic. I wouldn't worry if you or I swallowed a few but I would not make a habit of eating them.

      Apricot seeds contain amygdalin, otherwise known as B17 or Laetrile.

      Just as with cyancobalimin (a type of B12 sold over the counter). The body can sometimes convert the raw material into a minute amount of cyanide.

      No matter what, it is the seed inside of the pit and not the wholesome fruit which is the source of fear and rumor.

      Go to Europe or order from there and you can find delicious cookies made of apricot seed flour along with the usual wheat flour, sugar and so forth.

      12 days ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      If I was NED I wouldn't take anymore chemo or anything for awhile and let her body heal...There is no cure for cancer YET....I don't think.

      12 days ago
    • msesq's Avatar
      msesq

      Amen to that Greg.

      11 days ago
    • Jouska's Avatar
      Jouska

      Just look at Steve Jobs, who tried alternative methods, which did not work. All the money in the world and a very very smart man. I think sometimes we grasp at straws because the real and necessary treatment is so significant and so difficult to go through. I do believe that there are treatments to be discovered and am so grateful for medical research. I also agree that eating well and exercising are important for everyone. Keeping mind and body healthy as best one can makes everything better.

      11 days ago
    • Dkatsmeow's Avatar
      Dkatsmeow

      Don't be naive! Everyone has an opinion or "answer" for your cancer. They are NOT DOCTORS! And NO doctors are not Gods, (much as most think they are), they do have extensive education, experience & resources that we as lay people don;t. Unfortunately it is all a matter of trust. Trusting that your doctors knows what he is doing. I can go for some of tbe holistic. Especially finding peace with yourself & being mindful of you body & such. Snake oil?! To each his own.

      11 days ago
    • charnell's Avatar
      charnell

      what is ned

      11 days ago
    • Dkatsmeow's Avatar
      Dkatsmeow

      it bascially means no cancer detected. I'm not sure what the "E" stands for. Anyone?

      11 days ago
    • Jouska's Avatar
      Jouska

      No Evidence of Disease

      11 days ago
    • Dkatsmeow's Avatar
      Dkatsmeow

      We like that! No evidence of disease.

      11 days ago
    • bigjan's Avatar
      bigjan

      Buyer beware, and if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I will add another, if you could cure cancer with blueberries and yogurt, we wouldn't all be taking chemo and radiation. And for those people that say stupid stuff like "there's already a cure, the drug companies won't let it out", how much money do you think they would make off of a pill, shot or series of treatments that would "cure" cancer? There goes that theory.

      11 days ago
    • Richardc's Avatar
      Richardc

      No better than the Laetrile scam they tried several decades ago. It wasn't effective then and doesn't work now. I would put my trust in the doctor.

      11 days ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      EVERY medicine imitates something in Nature. Easiest example is the Pacific Yew Tree which produces taxol in its sap from which source came a synthetic version called tamoxifen. Oddly, the Pacific Yew is now a rare tree where it was once all over the Pacific NW of the US.

      You have no reason to be afraid of Nature. It is what it is.

      Were we to obey Nature's methodology, I believe cancer would soon disappear.

      Congress is now considering a rule which would allow animal feces in drinking water. I hope the whole dang government ALL resign. To support corporate reprehensible profit over human health is abomnible.

      No cure is needed if prevention is feasible. Mankind hasnt ever really cured anything but has been successful, upon occasion, with preventive measures.

      People need clean air; fresh, clean food, clean water, some dance or movement, and spirit or love. Lessen any of these and the body begins to fail.

      Lack of prevention is the real scam, IMHO.

      10 days ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      BTW, Steve Nobs idea of alternative wascquite different than you believe. He has his dna copied and downloaded. Eventually, I suppose, the information will be used in some sort of android, technology, or cloning procedure.

      10 days ago
    • Sheryl88's Avatar
      Sheryl88

      Are we ever “done” with treatment?? Even if NED? I finished chemo and rads 1 year ago ... I am NED. I still take exemestane every day, see my oncologist and/or breast surgeon every 3 months. Prolia every 6 months. Scans and labs as needed. I consider all this still part of the disease and treatment.

      1 day ago

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