• Pinktober products?

    Asked by cllinda on Wednesday, September 23, 2015

    Pinktober products?

    As we start to get into October, more and more products will be in pink containers (like shampoos) or they have the pink ribbon on them. What is the funniest thing you have seen with the Pink Ribbon for Breast Cancer on?
    This morning, I picked up a microwavable sweet potato to cook, and on the plastic wrapping, there was the pink ribbon. I know sweet potatoes are good for you, but do they really need the pink ribbon logo on them? And do these products really give to the charities they say they do? Or is it just a way to trick the consumer into buying that product, thinking you are helping?

    29 Answers from the Community

    29 answers
    • cam32505's Avatar
      cam32505

      I've read that very little of the money goes to support the cause, so I don't buy anything like that anymore unless I just like the item.

      about 6 years ago
    • Ejourneys' Avatar
      Ejourneys

      Pinkwashing Hall of Shame:
      https://www.facebook.com/nopinkwashing

      about 6 years ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Donuts.

      How duplicitous!

      about 6 years ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      And (I forgot) oil rigs ... ugh

      about 6 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      Tell them that pink ribbons and sneakers DO NOT CURE ANYTHING>
      They waste all that money....How about giving some of that cash out to POOR cancer patients as there are MANY....some can't afford a computer and the internet.
      IT'S WAY too commercial for me.

      about 6 years ago
    • Kris103's Avatar
      Kris103

      Tool kits
      Guns

      I can't stand 'Pink'tober.

      about 6 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      They ought to Audit this Organization RIGHT after the FED....

      about 6 years ago
    • Danielle3's Avatar
      Danielle3

      This is crazy! Yet sad that people actually try to cash in on such a terrible disease. I strongly believe the monies don't go towards the cure. I also believe family and friends should help directly their love ones (or people in need). Those XXX snakes will go straight to XXX. The thought makes me mad...okay I will calm down now (my energy is low).

      about 6 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      Hey Danielle....The Drug Companies have been stuck with the same direction forever.
      Some Immune Clinical Trials BUT nothing new and innovative....If I had Money I'd offer a Million Dollar Prize to ANYBODY Doc or Not who comes up with a NEW idea that has merit.....Bet People would be coming out of the woodwork with new ideas.....many just regular people. IT STARTS with an IDEA First. But I'm OLD and Dirt Poor....lol

      about 6 years ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      I hate pinktober with a passion. I get sooooooo tired of everything having that pink ribbon. What a racket.

      about 6 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      The BC Women SEEM to love them though????

      about 6 years ago
    • Danielle3's Avatar
      Danielle3

      Barryboomer...too funny! As a woman with BC, I don't mind buying certain products (but only if I like the product, not because of the "pink" ). I just wish the snakes would give to the cure instead of their wallets. But they wouldn't be snakes. ...oh go figure.

      about 6 years ago
    • Ejourneys' Avatar
      Ejourneys

      @barryboomer, I'm laughing here. Take a look at the #bcsm (breast cancer social media) thread on Twitter and you'll see that there's a vocal BC contingent that *loathes* Pinktober!

      I posted these links on my blog last year -- plenty more where these came from!

      "My Disease Isn't a Cutesy Slogan" by Lara Huffman
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lara-huffman/my-disease-isnt-a-cutesy-slogan_b_5853184.html

      True October by JodySchoger (one of the founders of #bcsm)
      http://womenwcancer.blogspot.com/2014/09/true-october.html

      "We’re Aware -- Now What? A Patient’s Perspective on the Need for Research" by Ann Silberman
      http://www.healthline.com/health/breast-cancer/turn-from-awareness-to-research

      There is also a new group called Met-Up, modeled after the AIDS activist group ACT-UP. They will hold a die-in October 13, 2015 at 11AM on the west lawn of the US Capitol and have already held an event at the 2015 Living Beyond Breast Cancer Metastatic Breast Cancer Conference in Philadelphia. Their website is here:
      http://www.metup.org/

      From the site:
      "In the last 40 years of 'breast cancer awareness', the death toll has not changed. The mean survival rate of 3 years (starting at time of metastatic diagnosis) has not meaningfully changed. We have spent almost half a century trying to fund research for a cure, and getting pink merchandise in response. We've tried to make a difference by setting out the honey traps the entire time.

      "The time for honey is over.

      "Break out the vinegar. It's our turn now."

      about 6 years ago
    • ChildOfGod4570's Avatar
      ChildOfGod4570

      I too am sorely vexed by the fact they commercialize a disease that has changed our lives forever and turn it into a cutesy wootsy Barbie doll commercial racket. I might feel better if I knew they were making progress and more women are getting cured. I don't buy products for their pink ribbon; I buy them because I intend to use the product. I do confess I received a pink ribbon bracelet for Christmas the year after I completed active treatment, but that was a present given by a well meaning person. Back to ribbon products, I've seen a rubber stress releif toy in my oncologist's office they have the patient squeeze when giving a blood sample. On really odd products, I did once have a friend who gave me one of those giant pretzels she got at a party; and low and behold, there afixed to the pretzel, was a pink ribbon made from sugar candy! Has anyone seen the ribbon actually as part of the food you eat? HUGS and God bless!

      about 6 years ago
    • cllinda's Avatar
      cllinda

      I would love to see the big companies who buy into Pinktober show their spreadsheets of how much actually goes to Breast Cancer Charities. Then those would be the companies that we should purchase Pink things from. If XYZ company shows they donate $1,000,000 to a charity, then we should support them. I think if they can't truthfully show their spreadsheets, then we don't need their products.

      about 6 years ago
    • threewillows' Avatar
      threewillows

      I also find myself on edge with Pinktober. I wonder if some of the support for these products comes from friends and family who feel the need to do something. The most memorable pink wash product for me is pink ribbon and shrink wrap on Five Hour Energy Shots!

      about 6 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      The worst thing I ever saw was a chemo Doll that had no hair...
      I almost lost my lunch. HOW much does it cost to make all this crap and HOW much is Profit and How much does any good??? UGH....doesn't look good. I thing a LOT of NEW BC Patients buy in and eventually see the ruse. I guess it's a place to make friends and fellowship on the runs and activities....I Guess.

      about 6 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      In this video Chris Wark give the BEST Explanation as to WHY it's bad to give to the Pink People.
      Very Good..

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsRVBH3MCQU&feature=youtu.be

      about 6 years ago
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    • Rustysmom's Avatar
      Rustysmom

      I had just finished chemo, and was buying something at a store and the clerk asked If I wanted to make a contribution to breast cancer awareness. I told her that I'm already very AWARE of breast cancer. My problem with all this stuff, and even the companies who actually follow thru with contributing money to organizations is that the percentage of cash that goes to "Awareness" vs. to actual research for a cure of Metastatic Breast Cancer (the ONLY one that KILLS US) is WAY out of wack. But that's hard to market. Komen and the like only want to show those of us who survive and not the ugly truth of what the disease really does. Okay, I'll simmer down now. ;-)

      about 6 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      They Don't paint a true picture of the cancer crap.

      about 6 years ago
    • Dina's Avatar
      Dina

      I walked the AVON 39 in July, and at Check-in, I was provided with free full size tubes of AVON foot care creams containing parabens. Here is an excerpt of the letter I wrote to AVON - I will post their response a bit later...if you are interested:

      "I recently completed the AVON 39 in San Francisco and I cannot tell you how incredible the event was, as a recent breast cancer survivor. It was an amazing outpouring of life-affirming and empowering experiences, and I plan to continue the walk every year, and grow the team I had the honor to walk with.

      I am very involved in the local ‘breast cancer community’, working with several organizations who provide financial assistance, work to increase awareness of issues surrounding breast cancer – causes, treatment, support and education. As such, I am very aware of the toxic chemicals in our environment and in our bodies, and the impact of additives to our daily household, body and health products and cosmetics that are considered to be carcinogenic. As a woman with estrogen positive breast cancer, one of the most common types of breast cancers, I am well aware of the dangers of putting any type of xenoestrogens in my body that act as endocrine disruptors... Parabens are one of the most dominant xenoestrogens found in our skin and body products, and I avoid them at all costs.

      At check-in for the Walk, on Friday night, all walkers were given free tubes of your product ‘Foot Works Healthy Arthritis Achy Foot & Muscle Cream’ – which was very appreciated and made great sense at the time – until I read the ingredient label. While I was very grateful for the free products, I soon realized that methyl paraben is an ingredient in your Foot Works Healthy Arthritis Achy Foot & Muscle Cream. I cannot tell you how much time I have spent clearing out my home and bathroom cabinets of products containing parabens and other toxic ingredients, only to be given a free dose of methyl paraben at an event that “supports awareness and education, screening and diagnosis, access to care, support services, and scientific research” surrounding breast cancer.

      ... to put it blatantly – AVON should not be using these ingredients (or any other toxic chemicals which I will not go into here) in ANY of their products, if they are to walk the walk that they talk.
      A response would be greatly appreciated."

      about 6 years ago
    • Rustysmom's Avatar
      Rustysmom

      Dina, dying to hear the rest of the story. Please post the response. Thanks for sharing your very articulate letter.

      about 6 years ago
    • Dina's Avatar
      Dina

      Here you go...

      I emailed everyone I could find on their contacts page of The Avon Foundation for Women, from Media, to PR & Communications, to Marketing, not knowing who (if anyone) would get back to me. This response came from Marc Hurlbert, Ph.D., Executive Director, Avon Foundation for Women. From their website, he serves as the Executive Secretary to the Avon Foundation Scientific Advisory Board. He is a pharmacologist by training and has extensive experience in managing medical research programs and grants administration in the voluntary health agency and patient-advocacy arena. Dr. Hurlbert serves as the Executive Director of the Avon Foundation Breast Cancer Crusade.

      (FYI - the ingredient list of this product is: ACTIVE INGREDIENT: METHYL SALICYLATE 25.0% OTHER INGREDIENTS: WATER/EAU C12-15 ALKYL BENZOATE GLYCERIN ISOPROPYL PALMITATE GLUCOSAMINE HCL SODIUM CHONDROITIN SULFATE ALGAE EXTRACT YEAST EXTRACT/EXTRAIT DE LEVURE POLYACRYLAMIDE STEARETH-2 C13-14 ISOPARAFFIN GLYCERYL STEARATE PHENOXYETHANOL STEARETH-20 MENTHOL METHYLPARABEN LAURETH-7 CITRIC ACID GLYCOLIC ACID UREA POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE)

      Here is his response. Click through to the links as well.

      Hi Dina,
      Thank you very much for your dedicated support as a walker and fundraiser for AVON 39 The Walk To End Breast Cancer. We’re so pleased to hear that you had such a positive experience and are committed to walking again and growing your team. It’s 39ers like you who are making a difference in the fight against breast cancer.
      We appreciate you sharing your concern about the product distributed at the event. We take your concerns seriously and will re-evaluate the products planned for distribution at next year’s Avon 39 events.
      As background, the Avon Foundation for Women is a 501(c)3 charity and a separate legal entity from Avon Products, Inc. However, the Foundation is fortunate to receive support from the corporation in all of our endeavors, including the AVON 39. Included in that support is donated Avon products for AVON 39 participants.
      Although I can’t speak on behalf of the corporation, Avon has published statements on its website outlining its commitment to product safety (http://www.avoncompany.com/corporate-responsibility/about-cr/positions-policies/product-safety/) and its position on parabens http://www.avoncompany.com/corporate-responsibility/about-cr/positions-policies/parabens/
      For your convenience, I’ve pulled some language from the statements and included it below so you can have a clearer view on Avon’s position on product safety:
      “Product safety: For 125 years, Avon has led the way in beauty product research and development, with an impressive track record for safety – the longest in the industry. No ingredient is added to an Avon product unless it is safe.
      Parabens: Because of their long established history of safe use, parabens are used by the vast majority of global cosmetics companies as an important health and safety precaution. Consistent with its unwavering commitment to safety, but in recognition of the fact that some consumers have a preference for products without parabens, Avon has taken several steps:

      • Starting in 2002, Avon began eliminating parabens from some of our products where there are safe alternatives. Today, these paraben-free products include lip products; women's body care; antiperspirants and deodorants; and children's products.
      • Beginning in 2006, Avon made the decision to develop new products without using isobutyl and isopropyl parabens. In 2010, Avon made the decision to no longer use propyl and butyl parabens in new product development.

      Consumers can continue to use Avon products with confidence, and can make their own choices regarding parabens (or any other ingredients) by reading the label of Avon products. Products containing parabens are clearly labeled in the ingredient listing, which is strictly guided by law.”

      Through the support of Avon and walkers like you, the Avon Foundation has donated more than $550 million to breast cancer research and access to care programs in the U.S. The Foundation awards funding to beneficiaries ranging from leading cancer centers to community-based grassroots breast health programs. Additionally, the Foundation is a leading funder of breast cancer prevention research, including environmental chemical exposures ranging from air pollution and flame retardants, to household goods, cosmetics and personal care products. We have funded nearly $10-million in environmental research over approximately the last decade. In addition, we have funded an additional $7-million to determine if infectious agents in the environment might play role in causing breast cancer.
      We hope this information provides you with a more complete picture and we appreciate the opportunity to share it with you. For additional inquiries about the safety of Avon products, please contact [email redacted]. Additional product ingredient information about parabens can be found at http://cosmeticsinfo.org/. We invite you to visit our websites, www.avonfoundation.org, or www.avonBHOP.org for additional details on our support of breast cancer and other women’s causes.

      Sincerely,
      Marc

      Marc Hurlbert, Ph.D.
      Executive Director
      Avon Foundation for Women

      about 6 years ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      @Dina ... I'm confused. Parabens are safe but Avon has stopped using them because their customers are prissy and you walkers get left over products that still have a safe but not safer ingredient in them?

      What?

      about 6 years ago
    • Dina's Avatar
      Dina

      I was as confused by his response as you are. In my opinion, this was a PR driven message and doesn't even address methyparabens specifically. This is my latest response to Marc:

      Marc – thank you for your response. In two of the links you included it is stated that:

      “ A few studies have suggested that parabens may have very weak "estrogenic" activity. Separately, some naturally-occurring estrogens, such as estradiol, are known to increase the growth of tumors. While it is understandable how people might interpret this as a link between parabens and cancer, there is no widely-accepted scientific evidence to support this. Numerous studies have shown that parabens do not act like estrogen in the body. Parabens are 10,000 to 100,000 times less active than estrogens produced in the human body. By comparison, plant estrogens (phytoestrogens) found in dozens of foods such as broccoli, grapes, oats, coffee and potatoes are 1,000 to 10,000 times more active than the parabens in cosmetics.

      The main parabens used as preservatives in cosmetics come in two forms: "short chain" (methyl-and ethyl paraben) and "long chain" (propyl- and butyl paraben). There is also some limited use of isobutyl- and isopropyl parabens, also known as "branched chain parabens".

      Government scientists and other experts have concluded that scientific evidence unequivocally supports the safety of parabens. The organizations that have investigated the safety of parabens include the World Health Organization, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Anvisa in Brazil, and the EU Scientific Committee on Consumer Safety (SCCS), a committee of experts that advises the European Commission. Each of these organizations has concluded that parabens can be used safely and are important ingredients in preventing fungal and bacterial contamination of cosmetics.”

      Furthermore, “Avon is aware of claims that certain cosmetic ingredients are harmful, or that trace contaminants are of an unsafe level, and some of the claims carry alarmist tones. When rumors circulate about an ingredient being unsafe, they spread quickly and can concern people unnecessarily. It is very easy for an individual or group to misunderstand a piece of data or take it out of context.”

      Could you please send me more information on these studies so that my alarmist out-of-context, estrogen-fed cancer can sleep better at night?

      about 6 years ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Sadly, I believe that it turns out that all these "safe" products not only aren't but are even more dangerous when used in combination. My faith & trust in the cycle of big pharma, big food, big oil & war is quite a bit under the sub sub-basement.

      http://thinkbeforeyoupink.org/before-you-buy/history-of-the-pink-ribbon/

      So lazy & greedy that rather than face Charlotte Haley (the gal who came up with the ribbon campaign to help her family but her project did not ask directly for cash), who based her idea on Penney Laingan's yellow ribbon campaignj (for her hostage hubby) they consulted their attorneys and were told to simply use a different color.

      They should have stuck with visors .. but can you possibly imagine Dunkin Donuts giving away visors rather than selling ribbonized doughnuts? Neither can I. Nor Proctor & Gamble nor Kellogg nor Cascadian Farms nor Dean Foods and so on and so forth.

      What is being sold is the idea that if you give your money to pay salaries and bonuses and research for drugs, a pharmaceutical company will invent something just for you. So after raising all the billions and (maybe) coming up with some new chemotherapy with a teeny bit of that collected (not earned) dough, you will have the privilege of paying again in both cash and body parts and, even your ability to function.

      We need to find causes and ways to prevent all cancers.

      Grumble grumble

      about 6 years ago
    • barryboomer's Avatar
      barryboomer

      Hey E Journey.....you're starting to sound like ME...lol

      about 6 years ago
    • Ejourneys' Avatar
      Ejourneys

      @barryboomer, that was @geekling. But she has a point. :-)

      about 6 years ago

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