• Protein in your diet

    Asked by kevin_ryan on Wednesday, March 13, 2013

    Protein in your diet

    I have been reading a book called "the China Study" which advocates no animal protein and all plant protein in your diet. Shows examples of studies that can turn cancer on and off by eliminating any animal protein including eggs and cows milk. Has anyone got any experience with this? Trying it? getting good or bad results?

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    • nancyjac's Avatar

      There are certainly a lot of vegetarians and vegans in the world who consume no animal protein. However, there are also lots of vegetarians and vegans that get cancer. What I think the important point is here is that no diet, vegan or otherwise causes or cures cancer and that good or bad results involve a lot more than just whether you get cancer or not.

      There are a few specific proteins and enzymes and vitamins that are only available from animal proteins and some vegans compensate for that with synthetic supplements. A person's diet is a long term way of eating, not something you do for a few weeks or months to lose a few pounds. In the grand scheme of things, animal protein in moderation or vegan is more a matter of preference than a matter of health.

      over 5 years ago
    • SandiD's Avatar

      I am a Survivor of Colon and Breast Cancer. I was a Vegetarian who ate healthy and exercised my whole life. Now that I had BC, I was advised to get more protein in my diet and eat less soy products, so I have added small amounts of lean meat back into my diet. I think sometimes cancer just happens, but also believe it never hurts to eat as healthy as possible. I wish you the best of luck on this journey. Always check with your oncologist before you make any changes!

      over 5 years ago
    • geekling's Avatar

      I am a person who only eats one legged animals. Still, I get plenty of protein from sprouts which have more protein in a serving than most cuts of flesh. I have been this way for much of my adult life. I have survived cancer and am one of the few who can actually put a cause on the cancer I had and it had to do with environmental toxins rather than how I eat. The human body is an oxygen machine and I simply wasn't getting enough but that is another story.

      It is the nutrition or lack of nutrition in our bodies which strengthens or compromises our immune system and it is our immune system which wards off disease. The human race ate 100% organically for hundreds of thousands of years and cancer was little known in the community. With the advent of biotoxins from WW I and the addition of pesticides to agriculture for food, cancer has exploded. There are other contributing factors as well.

      Asians eat soy which is fermented. Tofu (unfermented) is/was a seldom and special used treat to replace meat or dairy when there are/were guests. In the West, of course, soy was/is advertised and rammed down throats as a must have and have often 'new' health food. Asian diets have become more westernized at this point in time. There is great power in the advertising dollar of a Southern Colonel and a Clown and a Mouse.

      To the best of my knowledge, there are no specific enzymes or vitamins that are only available from meat. Taurine and B-12 are more rare in the plant world but are not non existent. Because of the 'stigma' of eating against the grain, it is difficult to socialize and to purchase some of my requirements. I must grow sprouts in order to have enough quantity available and must make natto to have my B12 in great enough supply. I've heard rumor that watermelon seeds contain B12 but have not been able to locate proof either way to this date.

      Study after study have each shown, despite what Big Food would like you to believe, that a balanced vegetarian or vegan diet gives a person exactly what is needed. Personally, I do not eat unfermented soy, I do not eat dairy, and I do not eat meat. I have, after long term study, replaced each of these items with a plant based alternative. Don't give anything up until you have a better replacement. Do understand, however, the quality of what is being served up to you as food.

      My favorite simple example is that a herd mammal eats grass and digests the fiber and juice as chlorophyll through its numerous stomachs, chewing its "cud". Our forebears ate herd mammals to get, second hand, the benefits of the chlorophyll. Humans are unable to digest grass fiber. Cows and other comercial herd animals, today, are fed corn and soy. That is not their natural food, it makes them sick, and they have no benefit for us so what is the point of eating them, please? We are eating, with meat, illness and chemically induced misery.

      Still it is a habit deeply ingrained and people unknowingly put sick food on their table, IMHO. I do not believe that corn and soy and chemical additives were or are the best bases for nutrition.

      over 5 years ago
    • Clyde's Avatar

      There are no magic pills, magic diets, magic tricks. While I'm sure there is someone, somewhere who had a change (for the better) in their health by changing their diet, there are so many more who harmed themselves by doing the same thing and throwing their system into chaos at a time when they shouldn't. Before you make any drastic changes to your diet, you need to speak to a professional dietitian and make sure you aren't doing more damage than good while you support the book's author.

      over 5 years ago
    • AlizaMLS's Avatar

      Dear kevin_ryan,

      Hi, I'm Aliza, a BC patient and Medical Librarian (retired). Yesterday I went to my mecca (Memorial Sloan Kettering) to see the nutritionist there to find out how to lose some weight before having my breast reconstruction (they're kind of tied together [without going through myriad details]). She gave me a booklet (I didn't get a chance to look through it then - that's todays agenda (I had to see my oncologist for a bone bruise from a fall), but the nutritionist did advocate a diet that was higher in plant based foods than meat, and also one that was higher in protein than carbs (left me a bit puzzled [started to think if I was going on Atkins?!]). She assured me not, which relieved me as I'm also a Lupus patient and too much protein isn't good for my kidneys to process.

      I saw a number of people on the site who advocated that grass fed animals, particularly beef were better to consume (they may not have said this being veggies) but I'm not a veggie and I know this, it's better to eat grass fed beef than beef fed corn or soy and it's better to eat organically raised meat as well as hormone free milk if you drink that.

      I eat soy yogurt, and drink enriched Rice Dream (slight lactose sensitivity [not intolerance]). A completely vegeterian diet wouldn't work for me as I have other conditions that it would aggravate. The nutritionist at Sloan is aware of this and told me to modify their plan according to my tolerances and allergies. Others may have this problem as well.

      over 5 years ago

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