• Well I have finally found the magic potion. This guy says he can heal my cancer without chemo or radiation.

    Asked by Boogerman on Wednesday, August 15, 2018

    Well I have finally found the magic potion. This guy says he can heal my cancer without chemo or radiation.

    But, just in case I've already had chemo and radiation, his program will be good for preventing cancer from coming back. It works of course, because he says he used it, and he's alive.
    This popped up on my Facebook feed today, I guess they are targeting people with a sponsored ad on facebook to people that have posted about or looked at cancer related content. Now here's a question, why are they paying for ads on facebook when they are "giving away for free" this magic potion?? Could it be that after you watch his "free video" that then you will have to buy his magic potion? As always buyer beware.

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    • po18guy's Avatar
      po18guy

      Money back guarantee to original purchaser if you die? If it quacks like a duck...

      DW spoke with a woman whose husband was 'cured' by eating canned Green Giant asparagus. "Really?" my incredulous wife asked.

      Oh, and he had chemo..."

      Yeah.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      Haha!! You're both so right!!! (and, somehow or another I ended up with Chris Beat Cancer having my email address. No matter how many times I say I want to be unsubscribed, I still get his daily emails. VERY frustrating.)

      Running off to get some Green Giant asparagus ... oh yeah ... and to book my next chemo appointment...

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      @Boogerman, you are a real curmudgeonly soul, aren'cha? :-). I watched the intro thru the link you sent and heard him talk about himself, not you.

      I will watch what I can. Maybe I might learn a trick or two. He will, the ad said, be selling copies of what he will be showing you at no cost. Let's simply hope he is entertaining and that he can teach something through his survival.

      Best wishes

      3 months ago
    • JaneA's Avatar
      JaneA

      It distressing me that so much "fake news" is floating around about how to cure cancer. Newly diagnosed cancer patients are still shell-shocked and in disbelief. They don't know who to believe or what to believe.

      Our first reaction might be ban ads like that or censor websites that purport "cures" without clinical trials or studies. But freedom of speech is precious, and we are patients must be vigilant and seek answers from trusted sources.

      3 months ago
    • Molly72's Avatar
      Molly72

      It ain't what he sez, it's who believes him!

      (This is true in many different situations)

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      So true, @Molly72. Unfortunately, there are desperate people everywhere ... and they are especially desperate for a solution that doesn't include chemotherapy :(

      Complementary or integrative medicine is great; but eschewing traditional medicine, in my opinion, is often akin to committing suicide.

      3 months ago
    • GregP_WN's Avatar
      GregP_WN

      I am amazed at the number of people that will throw their doctor out under a bus, ignore what has been proven and is the standard of care, and jump on one of these fairy tales. People are dying trying this that might have been saved. But, to each his own, if anyone wants to go give it a run, it's their choice, All I ask is to please get me a Unicorn while your there and send it back to me. I need one on our farm.

      3 months ago
    • Boogerman's Avatar
      Boogerman

      @geekling, I don't give a flying XXXX who he's talking to, he is another nut job that was a scared little boy of taking the treatments and happened to have lucked out and didn't die doing his own thing. He is making money off of the fears of good people that are also afraid, and in doing so he is killing them. Let's see some clinical proof that this non-sense will kill cancer. Or as he says "prevent" cancer. One person commented that it must work, because she had been taking this stuff for 2 years and she hasn't been diagnosed with cancer. This is the average intelligence of those who dive into this. But, it's nothing to me, I just hope none of us get sucked into this crazy train.

      3 months ago
    • Songwriter's Avatar
      Songwriter

      Chris is not a nut and he was a true inspiration when I was diagnosed five years ago with Marginal Zone, Nodal Non Hodgkin's Lymphoma. He talks mostly about changing ones diet to Plant Based and Many Supplements to TRY. Nobody knows if his cancer was cured by his original surgery or not. He refused surgery and it was his choice but he is here many years later and appears Healthy. In my opinion many cancer patients may want to try changing their diet to a Plant Based diet and supplements like Curcumin, Green Tea Extract, IP6, Mushroom Extracts and others before a more toxic chemo to see how they do. Chris has an Amazing video where he talks to NEW Cancer Patients that I found and find really helpful and amazing. SO Before you trash Chris do some homework. He does a LOT of work and if he wants to charge for some of his services so be it as he is not making anybody buy it. His video to new patients is FREE and is on line and I can't recommend it more highly.

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      @Boogerman, thank you!

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      @Songwriter ... Barry ... if you know Chris, PLEASE tell him I do NOT want his emails. I have tried everything I know to get off of his list(s) (I don't even know how I got on it). You may find him inspirational - I find him dangerous. And irritating because I don't want to be spammed by his emails. If he's so credible, why won't he let you get away from him if you're not interested in what he has to say/sell?

      (With my cancer, if I had tried changing diets and herbs and teas instead of traditional chemo, as harsh as it was, I have no doubt but that I would not be here typing today. It isn't that I don't think a very few cancers can be "cured" by changing one's lifestyle, but I think those are very few and far between and definitely not mainstream.)

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      There's a board-certified radiation oncologist here in NYC who advertises on the radio every day that he can cure all kinds of cancer without chemo or surgery, only "radio surgery," as he terms it. He isn't with any major cancer center; he's a sole practitioner. I've been very skeptical of his ridiculous claims, and because he works alone and not with MSKCC or NY-Presbyterian (I feel that if he were so good at helping cancer patients, he'd be with a top cancer research hospital). I just Googled him and saw he was sued by a patient's family after the patient died, and he was found guilty of malpractice. An article exposing him was written in New York Magazine (there may be other articles, too).

      Unfortunately, at this time, some cancers can't be treated effectively, or at least the goal of eradicating or curtailing its growth, without the use of surgery and chemo.

      3 months ago
    • Songwriter's Avatar
      Songwriter

      My Post before said Chris refused Surgery but I meant Chemo....I just don't understand all the really negative posts here. If you don't like what he is saying move on.

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      Barry, I and others here are bothered because people's lives are at stake when they believe and use scientifically-unproven "treatments" instead of the scientifically-tested and -proven treatment protocols given by top cancer hospitals. No oncologist can guarantee that a treatment will definitely save someone's life, but using those "conventional" methods HAVE saved or prolonged many, many lives (for example, our lives, here on WN!). I hate it that gullible, terrified people die because they believe fraudsters' claims that if one follows a certain diet and/or uses certain vitamin supplements, etc., one can avoid surgery, or chemo, etc., and prevent the cancer's growing, or prevent cancer altogether, etc. THAT'S why we're "negative." This anger is not just about us here. It's about the lives lost because so many people don't "just move on" after hearing about the miracle cures promoted by con artists or innocent "true-believers" who know not what they do.

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Without saying that you ought to take time out of your lives to listen to someone with a different point of view, why are you all so incensed that this man is talking about himself and his own experiences?

      This is supposed to be a free country where folks can speak as they wish.

      It took me 13 years to get a diagnosis. The plethora of doctors I saw were either myopic or stupid or could not have cared less about me while the tumor was still small and yet to grow roots. I believe that the toxic mold I was breathing denied me enough oxygen to thrive. I maintained a raw & living lifestyle and the tumor never grew although, admittedly, I was failing more each day. The doctors kept telling me to take happy pills, to cooperate, to shut up and be a nice lab rat, to comply to letting the tumor grow to a more financially viable size.

      How is it you think I survived that length of time? Farrah Fawcett did not make it 2 years with the same sort of cancer. I think it was my lifestyle which saved me. Had I known what I was facing, perhaps or perhaps not I could have saved myself without conventional treatment. Point being one theory tries to kill the cancer prior to the host expiring. The other theory tries to support the immune system to a point where it can rout the cancer.

      Neither theory is completely invalid or valid

      Best wishes

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      geekling, as I said, I'm angry because I don't like con artists and I don't like it that people get conned into forgoing treatments that have been scientifically-tested, and, instead, trust never-proven mofo bull. And end up dead. "It's a free country"? What are we, ten years old?

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      But, @Carool, the guy isnt a con artist. In the intro I watched he is simply inviting folks inside his life to see what he did and that he has survived. How is that being a con artist?

      I survived 13 freaking years with no diagnosis and no conventional treatment. How am I being a con artist by telling my story and how I helped myself to survive?

      There was a dude up in New Jersey who blames apricot kernels and his religious faith for his survival. He was prosecuted for selling the apricot kernels. The Judge threw the case out of Court ... twice because it was more than obvious the the dude really believed that religious faith and apricot kernels saved him. He wasnt "conning" anyone.

      People con themselves either by listening or by covering their ears. An ability to listen and then make a decision is a different ball of wax.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      @geek, since you asked, I believe you survived because you obviously had a VERY, VERY slow growing tumor. That's fortunate for you since, according to you, you were unfortunate enough to only find idiot doctors for 13 years. That's a really long time to have such incredibly bad luck.

      My personal belief is that maybe your diet helped, but maybe it didn't. My belief is that it probably didn't hurt but didn't help that much either. But, I have no more proof of that than you do that it helped. It's just my personal belief.

      Was Farrah's cancer from mold, too? Do any doctors support your self-diagnosis of mold and that you slowed the growth of the tumor via diet? (Note: I am aware that you believe most doctors are of inferior intelligence, especially compared to your own, so medical corroboration is likely not needed to support your convictions.)

      @Songwriter, like Carool said, "leaving it alone" can mean that desperate people die. Believing the entire time that somebody actually cured themselves ... and that they can do the same. There are sooooooooooooooooo many variables. Even IF someone was able to "cure themselves" with their diet or whatever, that does NOT translate into anyone else being able to reproduce those same results. And, while they're trying all of this natural stuff without the benefit of conventional medicine, their tumors could be taking over their bodies so that no treatment will be effective.

      AND ... once you get on the man's email list, you cannot get off. He has as many email addresses he sends from as Carter has pills. It is ridiculous. Why would you keep spamming someone who wants you to go away?

      There are any number of people, even here on this site, who have lived as vegans or extremely healthy eaters and led healthy lifestyles (lots of exercise, no drinking or smoking, the whole nine yards) ... and they have cancer. I know way too many people just like that who are also very young who have lung cancer. It is so sad. But, their diet nor their lifestyle kept them from getting cancer nor is it helping them now because most of them are fighting tumors that won't quit growing and spreading.

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      @LiveWithCancer, thank you! Yes!

      @geekling, maybe he's not intentionally trying to con people, but his advice sucks.

      3 months ago
    • Shoeless' Avatar
      Shoeless

      Songwriter ~ yeah let's all try a vegan diet for about a year or two after being diagnosed. If it doesn't cure us we can always get the proven treatment later, right? Unless, of course, we die during the vegan diet test period. I'm glad I went the chemo/surgery route, but hey you're free to experiment with your life any way you see fit. I just wish these charlatans weren't so convincing. My daughter has a cancer thing going on. She changed her diet totally and completely about a year ago. Her cancer has now progressed to the point that the doctors are telling her she needs surgery and chemo now or it will soon be too late for a cure and she can, at that time, go on a plan to prolong her life or simply say no to treatment and let nature take its course. I've talked to her about it until screamed at me to stop, she is sick and tired of hearing it, she is sure the diet thingy is going to work, and she most certainly is not going to consider surgery or chemo ~ both of which she needs. This misleading misinformation from these crooks is killing her and there's nothing I can do to change it. They all, each and every one of them, need to be locked up. A pox on snake oil salesmen.

      3 months ago
    • Songwriter's Avatar
      Songwriter

      Chris is not a Con Artist and on this site and others its the same old same old censorship crowd. If you don't like what he says or is promoting move on. You guys are really barking up the wrong tree here. I'm done with this group. Last time coming here.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      Wow, Shoeless. I am so, so very sorry to read about your daughter. I cannot imagine your frustration.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      The problem is that you can't move on because he is like a bad penny that keeps on showing back up :( :( :( And, did you even read what Shoeless wrote? His daughter may die for believing those who advise to just trust diet...

      3 months ago
    • Shoeless' Avatar
      Shoeless

      Songwriter ~ my daughter is dying because she won't "move on". These snake oil salesmen are leading her down the path to a casket. The doctors at IUPUI have the cure but she refuses to even consider it. Like I said, you are free to experiment with your life any way you wish, but I pray my daughter wakes up and realizes she is killing herself by listening to quacks.

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      Songwriter, if you're still on this, you are trying to censor US. Some here told you why we felt our dislike of what this guy says is not about ourselves but about others who may get sicker and die because they follow "alternative treatments" instead of their oncologists' protocols.

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      LWC, GregP_WN had the same type of cancer presenting in a different area. Why not ask him how slow growing it is? In truth I am 110% positive it was my lifestyle which kept it small because although it remained small, when, in the twelfth year, I broke my big toe and took solace in ice cream, the tumor grew just as the rest of me and quadrupled in size.

      My chosen oncologist remarked "You didn't get that from sunlight or smoking."

      I have no idea about Farrah Fawcett's life other than that she had anal cancer. My theory is that every human being needs fresh and clean air & water & food along with a good portion of movement and love. In my case, I was missing clean air. I cant speak for anyone else. I dont believe you are very aware except to snipe but that is also another story.

      I was not just a vegetarian. I was not just a vegan. I eschewed cooked food and ate things uncooked. I dont imagine you have ever eaten sprouts unless you like cooked Chinese food. I understand you cant imagine it just as you couldnt imagine the power of essential oils before you developed an interest. Every medicine created imitates something seen in Nature.

      I can make raw & living food taste like cooked food. I can make an imitation bacon you would eat. I can prepare root veggies to taste like salmon and a tuna salad using herbs or a chicken salad which hasnt ever met a bird. I did not just eat rabbit food. I downed over a pound of young greens per day. Had I known what I was facing, I would have done more.

      Marijuana has proven itself to cause cancer cell death. Somebody ought to look up a new, lab created carbon called C60 and see what it appears to be capable of accomplishing. I would just remind of Shakespeare "There are more things in Heaven and Earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio."

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      @geekling, you're being "110% positive" that it was your lifestyle that kept your tumor small means zilch scientifically. And now I'm back to my resolution to not continue discussions with true-believers.

      3 months ago
    • Shoeless' Avatar
      Shoeless

      Diet most certainly does make a difference. So does exercise and clean air ~ something hard to find in Northwest Indiana, which has many steel mills and lots of industry due to the presence of Lake Michigan, not to mention our proximity to Chicago. However, diet and clean living is not a cure for cancer. Chemo, radiation, and surgery, as uncomfortable as they are, are the best treatments we currently have. Maybe someday we will have one of those magical thingies they used in Star Trek to cure everything, but for now we do what we must.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      @Carool, you are so right. Discussing anything with an individual who knows it all is a waste of time and breath. I don't think i have ever run across any individual as self-righteous in all of my long life. And for that I am eternally grateful.

      3 months ago
    • wmsavs' Avatar
      wmsavs

      I am taking the opportunity here to add another point of view. In the words of P.T. Barnum, "There's a sucker born every minute." I'm sure we've all known some people that tried one "miracle cure" or another that we passed along our journey of whatever heredity induce, environmentally affected or poor choice life we've led. Please make my cocktail very dry.

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      @LiveWithCancer, I agree!

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      This is the difference between a con artist who makes guarantees and a young man who tells you his story and invites you to learn his methodology:

      https://realmedicalhelp.com

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      @Shoeless. I am sorry that you fear you are losing your daughter.

      As odd as it may sound and knowing nothing about her diagnosis nor the legality of marijuana in Indiana, please investigate FECO (full extract cannabis oil) as a cancer deterrent and even encourage your daughter to temporarily move to a cleaner and a legal State.

      Best wishes for her survival and ability to thrive.

      3 months ago
    • po18guy's Avatar
      po18guy

      Um...Chris beat cancer by having surgery. He is now hoodwinking the gullible and the "true believers" who will follow anybody with a charismatic personality and a "big pharma" conspiracy theory - no matter if it is even plausible. Dangerous.

      1979. My dad flew to Mexico and was shot up with Laetrile. Died. Steve Jobs, for good grief! tried "alternative" and promptly died.

      Now, Steve McQueen was a different case. He had Meso and tried all science based options available in 1980. That failing, he went to Mexico. I do not blame him, as he tried what was proven and had nothing to lose.

      LiveWithCancer - do you have a Mac or a PC? Mac mail has a "bounce" function which will tell his server that your email is no good. Just in case.

      Now, all should visit this site: https://www.quackwatch.org/ - a real doctor who has debunked all of the dangerous quackery out there.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      @po18guy, I have a PC. That's a really cool feature you have!!! I have blocked his address and I've unsubscribed from list after list ... but he keeps coming up with new email addresses from which to send. That tells me that he has lots of people try to unsubscribe so he has to change addresses constantly to keep his message coming. Such a sweet young man, so honorable and upstanding...

      Thank you for the Quackwatch link!

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      And how is believing that ordinary "round up ready" food steeped in "ordinary pesticides" and more or less true believing than avoiding those very same foods? Pesticides have only been in use for under 100 years while people have been eating for hundreds of thousands of years. Which is really ordinary? Perhaps you havent heard about the WHO results or the California Court case about 'ordinary' glysophate?

      The RDA was developed to prevent full blown scurvy. The numbers are estimates, guesses and have little to do with not quite full blown scurvy.

      http://www.mv.helsinki.fi/home/hemila/concepts/

      We are each entitled to have different beliefs. We are each entitled to follow our hearts.

      Tommy Chong, alive.
      Suzanne Summers, alive.
      Serena Williams, alive & kicking it.

      There are laws regarding email. If you actually take the time to remove yourself from an email list and keep getting mail despite, you can report the sender by complaining to:

      [email redacted]

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Oops: spam at uce dot gov

      3 months ago
    • Songwriter's Avatar
      Songwriter

      They told Chris he would be dead without at least 9 months of chemo so who knows why his cancer is gone. HE is very strict at what he does and most can't do what he does. There is NO Cure for cancer at present unless it is in situ and surgery gets it out. Many on Chris's site and facebook page took or take chemo and Rads. Many after years of it are still dying so they try other things. Once on chemo or Retuxin etc. Our Immune System and 99% of the rest of our cells in organs are also weakened and compromised. I don't do everything that Chris does and I can make up my own mind. BUT To call this guy a fake because he sells things is ridiculous...He quit his regular job and goes all over Helping People look at a different way but it's not for everybody. I believe by people calling him a Quack is not good because some people get a lot from him. EVERYBODY is selling something in America as we are one big story. AND Again although there

      3 months ago
    • Songwriter's Avatar
      Songwriter

      Yes there are a lot of Snake Oil Salesmen but HE isn't one of them and to lump him in with them is wrong...

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      Yes, Geek, I have "Actually taken the time to unsubscribe" myself from email list after email list after email list from Chris Beat Cancer. (Are you always rude?)

      He has many, MANY different emails from which he send his "message." It is virtually impossible to get off of all of them once you're on them apparently. (And he bought my email address to start with - I never, ever subscribed because I do not believe/buy into his story or his cure.)

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Then LWC why not take the time to report the offending emailer instead of besmirching someone who may or may not be the source of your complaint?

      Amazingly, the remedy is for not just you but for anyone with such a complaint.

      Enjoy your bacon bits.

      3 months ago
    • BoiseB's Avatar
      BoiseB

      I just saw a couple of videos on a YouTube science channel about bots on social media (FaceBook, Twitter, and Reddit) These bots try to manipulate all your views on everything not just politics. I love the internet for fun things and and as a starting point for some research but when it comes to life and death matters I go to the closest college or university library. Diet can prevent many not all cancers. Ditto for exercise. Avoiding the many environmental causes of cancer (if that is possible) can prevent cancer. Diet can also make chemo more effective.

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      @geekling, after reading your oblivious reply to Shoeless, and now reading your comments to LiveWithCancer, all I can say is: You are unbelievable. You know little about many kinds of cancer, yet you always think you MUST respond to many questions. And when it comes to telling a father who is urging his child to get treatment that may well help her, you have the nerve to AGAIN extoll the "deterring" powers of marijuana - AND to recommend that his daughter move temporarily to another, "cleaner" state where pot is legal.

      I know that Shoeless and LiveWithCancer don't need me to say this. I'm saying it for me. You never really respond to any refutations of any of your comments; you just blithely continue to spout your beliefs. Which would be fine, except when it deals with a life-threatening situation of someone you don't care at all about.

      Please try to show some compassion for a father who has well-founded fears that a child of his will die if she doesn't get oncological treatment soon. I know you have every right to express your beliefs. I'm expressing mine.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      Geek, why are you so mean? I really, really don't understand a person as miserable as you are.

      I never liked bacon bits, but thanks! I'll leave them for someone else.

      And, as I have written time and TIME again (but not in these exact words), I can not report email addresses I do not yet know. I get unsubscribed from the one specific list I request to be unsubscribed from (I think), but lo and behold, here comes another email from another email address. It is tricky how that works, right? On the up and up, right?

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      @Carool, you go, girl!!! You said it all as well or better than I can!! I was AMAZED and HORRIFIED at the post she wrote to Shoeless. The woman has zero empathy. Zero. Such a sad and pitiful individual. I couldn't let myself respond to it last night. (I wrote responses to get it off of my chest and then deleted)

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      @BoiseB, there are also some herbs, etc. that are detrimental to those in treatment. I just listened to a presentation about that. MSK has an excellent Web site devoted to herbs and their safety.

      I sure do know a lot of healthy eaters who were athletes who are dead. From cancer. Specifically, the ones I knew died from lung cancer. They didn't smoke. They lived all over the United States. They fought with everything they had, every tool, pharmaceutical and integrative ... they're still dead. Unfortunately, most of them were young people, too. That makes it even sadder.

      Some of us are going to get cancer. Some of us are not going to get cancer. Some of us are going to respond to treatments. Some of us are not. Who knows why? No one.

      3 months ago
    • Carool's Avatar
      Carool

      @LiveWithCancer, thank you! I tried to refrain but ended up not. I don't like saying negative things to anyone, but sometimes people have to think a little about how others will feel. Or, if they do think they're thinking of others and mean well, maybe reread the responses before posting them.

      3 months ago
    • LiveWithCancer's Avatar
      LiveWithCancer

      @Carool, to Shoeless, PERHAPS she was trying to be nice (doubt it, but maybe). To me, she NEVER tries to be nice. In fact, she tries to be as rude and mean as she thinks she can get by with. I do feel sorry for her. She's apparently a very lonely, bitter individual. Sad existence, really.

      (I am with you, especially here on WhatNext. People don't need rude, snarky, or snide. They don't need elaborated stories. They just need support. Seeing fighting is not helpful. However, I will not let her run roughshod over me without a response. That is TOTALLY against my nature :))

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Rather than misinterpret my words try actually reading before you cough up spite please. Shoeless said that his daughter is insistent and that she lives in a place with foul air.

      Moving to a place with better breatheability is not meant as an unkind thing to say.

      Adding a component to her personal and chosen treatment which does have some studies behind it showing a better outcome is also not unkind.

      I am sad to think how both my words and intent are twisted. Mostly, I am sad for Shoeless who believes his daughter will pass. Until FECO is made legal in all States, there will be no official published studies.

      https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq

      Please check item #6 ^

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.greenstate.com/health/explainer-does-marijuana-cure-cancer/amp/

      https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/cannabis-versus-cancer/

      It is also possible daughter could be convinced to combine diet, cannabis & western medicine.

      Until it is legalized, no one will be able to prove anything to anyone except by personal testamonial as per Chris Wark.

      https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/279571.php

      https://www.projectcbd.org/about/laboratorypreclinical-studies/cbd-thc-and-cancer

      In any case I wish for life.

      3 months ago
    • Shoeless' Avatar
      Shoeless

      Geekling ~ does air pollution cause cervical/uteinne cancer? My daughter lives in this area for several reasons, not the least of which is the fact that her children live here, plus she is 52 yrs. old and would have a hard time finding employment in Arizona or one of those clean air locations, and she doesn't see any need to move anyway ~ her diet is going to cure her, right??

      3 months ago
    • Shoeless' Avatar
      Shoeless

      *typo* should say uterine not ureinne ~ my fingers and chemo brain don't always work well in unison.

      3 months ago
    • geekling's Avatar
      geekling

      Everyone is afraid of Western medicine @Shoeless.

      Before I agreed to treat, I did what look up I could on radiation. I asked specific and detailed questions of the radiologist about side effects. The radiologist, specifically and with great detail, made up stories of how the side effects could not happen. Had he told me the truth, I would have been like your daughter. The then new oncology drugs were supposed to be 95% effective. With the doctor's mal-insurance, I submitted, whereas, had he been truthful, I would have refused.

      I wish you and your daughter good health and godspeed. Please look up hyperbaric oxygen chamber therapy along with infrared saunas.

      At some point, your daughter will either be well or seek a complimentary treatment for her diet. Please ask her if guanabana is included in her diet. Thank you.

      3 months ago
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      geekling

      Also I dont know what causes cancer. I do know that a human body will fail without its few requirements; clean water, clean & fresh food, clean air, some movement, and love.

      3 months ago
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      BoiseB

      @LiveWithCancer. I agree that some herbs and some perfectly nutritious foods can affect different chemo cocktails. In my case I was told not to eat grapefruit. My medical system had regular appointments with a dietition. Mine encouraged me to do some research. And it got to the point where our later appointments became an exchange of recipes I believe in an integrative approch to wellness. Also I don't believe in pills, I only take suppliments when my Dr. prescribes them. I try go get everything naturally.

      3 months ago
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      LiveWithCancer

      @BoiseB, we have a dietician, too. She came to us the very first time I was there for treatment. I told her I probably wouldn't follow any diet protocols so she just checks in with me once a year to be sure I am doing okay and to remind me she is there for me, should I need her. She's a really nice lady.

      I was at a patient advisory board meeting a week or two ago and learned that we now have three dieticians on staff to work with cancer patients. They each are assigned specific cancers that they work with. I am very happy the hospital offers that service because I think it is an important one.

      I'm with you. I wouldn't take supplements either unless my doctor prescribed them. Thankfully, they haven't been necessary for me. Apparently, my body is able to take what some would claim is a pitiful diet and pull out the nutrients, etc. that I need so that my blood work is always perfect (Thanking God for that).

      I also agree that an integrative plan is a great way to accomplish good health. I listened to an excellent webinar the other day on integrative medicine. Some of it confused me ... like, for instance, they were talking a lot about massage and I have heard / read that massage and cancer don't go together. At any rate, the integrative center (out of Austin, TX) works closely with a person's cancer medical team.

      The people who sponsored the Webninar (Texas Oncology Foundation) said that it was the most popular one they have ever had. There were so many questions still to be answered that they are going to do a Facebook Live one of these days to answer more.

      3 months ago
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      BoiseB

      My medical center also has a massage program. It was one therapy I totally rejected. I figured there was enough touchy feely going on with the treatment that I didn't want to add massage to it. Since the facility also treats the whole patient, my daughter got a few appointments. I also didn't want acupuncture during treatment.

      3 months ago
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      LiveWithCancer

      I never have had a massage nor accupuncture. I know a lot of my agility friends take their dogs for accupuncture. It seems to help them...

      3 months ago
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      BoiseB

      When I, the most accident prone creature on the planet was in an auto accident, I optedd for accupuncture rather than pain killers it really worked. I was lucky because the person who caused the accident could have been charged criminally,

      3 months ago
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      LiveWithCancer

      @BoiseB, wow. That's sad about your accident. Really good that the accupuncture worked for you though. I wouldn't be opposed to trying it, i don't guess, if i had a reason to. I don't think my hospital is much "into" integrative medicine though.

      3 months ago
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      BoiseB

      That particular accident was many accidents ago.

      3 months ago
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      macfightsback

      Wow! This question really got alot of passionate discussion. My 2¢ is I recommend getting conventional treatment chemo, surgury and/or radiation and choose other alternative treatment which you feel may be helpful to you. Many of these alternative treatments are going mainstream. Meditation, Healing Touch, Yoga, Acupuncture, certain supplements, Medical Qui Gong, Oncology massage, changing to a positive attitude and the one almost everyone mentions a more healthy diet are just a few. It is your life. It needs to be treatment which you feel comfortable with. It is your life. There are no guarantees. I am not naive. Make the most of every day. Yes I now am also on Chris's e-mail list. I clicked on his advertisement, so I initiated it. I got angry for a selfish stupid reason. He only had a 60% chance of survival. Well being late stage Ovarian Cancer I would love 60%. Many others here and other places would love that too. I think I should check him out just to see what this is all about, to be fair. I might learn something.

      3 months ago

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